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Re: Application code signing confusion




Le 3 mars 08 à 20:20, Perry The Cynic a écrit :


On Mar 2, 2008, at 5:08 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:


On 2 Mar '08, at 2:56 PM, Rainer Brockerhoff wrote:

Well, if your main binary is tamper-resistant with -kill,hard and you implement some sort of checking for the other resources inside that, producing a modified (but still signed) app becomes, at the very least, extremely hard.

Sure. But how is the user supposed to tell whether the app is still signed? A hacker could just strip the signature after meddling with the binary, and the user wouldn't know the difference.

In order to achieve the nirvana of only running valid code, the system must completely refuse to run unsigned code. Since that would really have ruined third party developers' Leopard experience, we don't do that in Leopard (except for the Parental Controls and firewall cases, where we surreptitiously sign unsigned programs when they are "enabled" to run).
Eventually you will all have signed your recent releases, and we'll have fixed all the (important) bugs and closed all the (important) holes, and a switch will materialize to this effect - to refuse (at the kernel level) to run any code that isn't valid. But not in Leopard. You can all thank me later. :-)

I do not really understand. Even if you implement a "do not run unsigned code" what will prevent an "hacker" to resign the application with his own certificat and rules? _______________________________________________
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