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OT: Re: changes in AppleScript and/or AS Studio in Tiger

Loek,

Indeed, this list has both its more well-mannered folks and some that could use some schooling in that area. Though the basic points that were made earlier are sound: Apple is *very* strict regarding discussion of non-released products, and they will even terminate one's 'expensive' membership if their policy of non-disclosure is breached. We are bound to our developer agreements, as they are a contract.

That being said, I agree that it is in Apple's best interest to disseminate development information so that as little software as possible suffers the ill-effects of a major transition between large releases. I struggled with this for 10.3/Panther's release, and re-signed as a paid developer so that the people who depend on my software wouldn't suffer bugs due to changes in 10.4/Tiger.

As well, being a developer with seed access (again, the 'expensive' subscription) allows one to file bugs against unreleased products and influence their development priorities.

It's a fact that you have to pay to play in this seed game, though Apple makes it more affordable than many companies. Some development programs I've seen start at US$1K with no 'free' programs to gain access to SDK and API info such as those that many enjoy (i.e. - Apple's 'online' developers).

Don't give up on this list; there's a lot of useful information that is discussed openly here, and a great many of its contributors offer without malice or spite. In spite of both of their flaws, both Apple's development programs and this list are excellent in comparison to many of their siblings elsewhere.

Best,

Steve Elliott
Babel Company


On Mar 29, 2005, at 8.51 am, Loek Jehee wrote:

Dear all,

I thought I was asking just a normal question and did not expect to
receive such (more or less) violent reactions, nor has it ever been
my intention to solicit people into doing illegal actions. I didn't know
that such specifications were restricted to the subscribers of the
(expensive) memberships. I also find this disappointing. In my
view it would be very beneficial for Mac development community
if such specifications would be made more easily available. The
Mac is largely based upon open source community software, isn't it?
Why then such commercial and restricted programs? Anyhow,
I guess this is off topic but I sure wanted to share my disappointment
on this with you.

Loek

At 14:11 -0800 28-03-2005, Matt Neuburg wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 01:00:20 +0100, Loek Jehee <email@hidden> said: 
Is there some documentation available on what precise
changes in AppleScript and/or AppleScript Studio there will
be made with the upcoming release of Tiger?

Yes. And for anyone who knows about it to discuss it is illegal. In fact,
soliciting people to discuss it with you is probably illegal. So, take my
advice. Shut up. (This advice is meant in a nice way, of course. But seeing
how Apple has taken to behaving lately, and considering what they've said on
some of the other lists, I suggest you take it seriously.)

I am worrying if my ASStudio application will work in Tiger
and wonder if there is any way in which I could check that
now already. A list of changes might be very helpful.

As Paul says, if you're that worried, buy yourself a membership so you
receive the beta seeds. Otherwise, you'll just have to suck it up like the
rest of us and wait until Tiger goes public. m.

--
matt neuburg, phd = email@hidden, <http://www.tidbits.com/matt/>
A fool + a tool + an autorelease pool = cool!
AppleScript: the Definitive Guide
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596005571/somethingsbymatt>


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