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Re: Apple Garamond and ATSUI



Thanks for the history on this beast Matt. Yeah, despite building font validation tools into our font management and layout, there are still fonts with bad data that just can't be detected and will either cause a visual problem as this or worse case, cause your app crash (we've found a lot of fonts with bad kern data lately). At least for ATSUI, one can turn-off separate layout processes by setting the layout options such as kATSLineDisableAllKerningAdjustments.

Dan

On Jan 29, 2005, at 12:02 PM, email@hidden wrote:

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:21:55 -0600
From: Matt Deatherage <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Apple Garamond and ATSUI
To: Takehiko Abe <email@hidden>
Cc: Daniel Fenwick <email@hidden>, email@hidden
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On 1/29/05 at 8:42 PM, Takehiko Abe <email@hidden> wrote:

Daniel Fenwick wrote:

Yep, that puppy has has some bad data.  But nobody should be using
this font since it was licensed for Apple and its venders exclusive
use. And since Apple no longer relies upon it for its documentation
font, fixing its problems are a very low priority.

How did you happen to come by it?  I suggest you delete it from your
system(s).

I dug it up from Jaguar install.

It's not present in a standard Panther installation, to the best of my knowledge, though it was hidden in Jaguar's Setup Assistant bundle.

The font named "Apple Garamond" may have been licensed just for Apple
and vendor use, but Bitstream sold the same version as "ITC Garamond
Narrow" until 2001, when the end of an ITC licensing agreement
effectively made the entire font vanish - Bitstream can't sell it, and
ITC doesn't have the hand-tuned Apple-style outlines.

See <http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/itc-garamond/> (scroll
down) for more details.  If you purchased the font before 2001, hang
onto it - you can't buy it again right now.

(cribbed in part from MDJ 2003.03.30)

If there is a global setting that nullifies the bugs in a font, I
want to know what it is.

Yeah, if you find that kATSUFindBugsAndIgnoreThem tag, let us know how to use it; you'll be a popular guy.

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