On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Steve Christensen wrote:
I think this discussion is getting a bit off-topic in some
respects. As Eric has already mentioned, Obj-C/Cocoa is a fact of
life for Mac OS X development, so debating the merits of one
programming language and/or framework doesn't really change anything.
On the contrary, I think this list is as good a forum as any for
the Apple developer community to be heard, in particular the C++/
Carbon community.
My reply was directed to the various recent comments of the form the
Obj-C is a dead language or that Cocoa is an inappropriate framework
for doing software development on the Mac. Apple has already made it
painfully clear, both implicitly and explicitly, that Cocoa/Obj-C is
where the bulk of their current and future development efforts will be.
Apple needs to know what we want (and then they need to give it to
us).
Nonsense. Apple needs to do the right thing for Apple, and supporting
developers is certainly a part of that from the point of view of
having a lot of great products that run on their platform. That does
not mean providing solutions that don't make sense for their longer-
term goals.
What everyone seems to forget is the Carbon was always described as a
method for a relatively smooth transition of OS 9's "legacy"
procedural APIs onto OS X so that developers could get their products
running sooner, not as something that would be around forever.
If there will be a 64-bit Carbon implementation in Leopard then cool
beans; if one won't show up until 10.6, or if it's really dead,
developers need to make an appropriate business decision.
Does having 64-bit Carbon support make my life easier? Yes, a lot.
But I know that in our case we'd like to continue shipping products.
I now have to bite the bullet and spend quite a bit of time porting
UI bits over to Cocoa (maintenance) in addition to my regular work
(new stuff). Holding out for a possible solution when Apple ships
Leopard just means that I might have wasted several months I could
have used as development time.
My two cents...
steve
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