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Re: Is Carbon Viable?




On Jun 15, 2007, at 6:11 AM, Martin Crane wrote:

As far as Carbon 64bit is concerned as a whole, although I understand that there may still be some edge case issues to resolve (there are plenty of edge cases in existing shipping Carbon!), it would have been much more considerate of Apple

Let's not mince words or dance around the issue with words like "considerate." For Apple to portray Carbon as a first-class citizen and make the promises they've made, and then renege on those promises shows that Apple lacks integrity as a company. This is further evidenced by the fact that Apple has not conveyed this change in direction openly and frankly to developers. Instead, they've essentially kept it secret and announced it in a backhanded way by the conspicuous absence of any mention of Carbon 64-bit support in Steve's keynote address. That was cowardly. They knew many developers would not take it well and Steve didn't want negative reactions during his big show.


FWIW, this lack of integrity is not new IMO. Apple foisted a buggy, half-baked, virtually undocumented OS on developers and the end result was that we worked our a**es off trying to figure out how to get stuff to work, report bugs their QE people should have found (if they'd loosen the purse strings enough to hire some), and then work around those bugs. It was great for Apple, but miserable for developers.

Of course, one could argue that this change in position is recent and necessary to Apple's success as a company, but even that leaves one pondering the risks involved in basing one's livelihood on what Apple tells you, not to mention the value of paying Apple $1500 to tell you things they can change on a whim without telling you they've changed. Truth is, they probably decided that their meager engineering dollars are better spent on cell phones, iPods, and other hardware gadget projects than on supporting Carbon. I don't know about anyone else, but I found it disconcerting that a major release of Mac OS X was postponed for several months because engineering resources were reallocated to work on a cell phone.

Just my $0.02.

Larry
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 >Re: Is Carbon Viable? (From: "Demian M. Nave" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Is Carbon Viable? (From: Steve Christensen <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Is Carbon Viable? (From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Is Carbon Viable? (From: Steve Christensen <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Is Carbon Viable? (From: Laurence Harris <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Is Carbon Viable? (From: Steve Christensen <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Is Carbon Viable? (From: Eric Schlegel <email@hidden>)
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