Hi,
I don't normally contribute to the list only get ideas and info from you folk, but this comment forced me to make a comment of my own, though it will start to divert from your initial query.
Adding to your comment I can only say that anything Cocoa is complete and utter crap... Full stop! I don't see why Apple dropped the true and tested Apple toolbox over some unproven garbage named after a caffeine plant. But anyways, I would think that Apple still has the mentality of thinking that everyone will jump as soon as they decide to do something different. I suspect that now they don't have any more original pre MacOS X programmers to continue the great work... You know, now the norm is
- have big fat icons.... cause that that is why we buy 30" screens, just in case we might not see them.
- don't make the GUI standard across applications... (Apple, you should forget about writing documents that state how to adhere to Human Interface guidelines.... You never obey them yourself!)
- don't make improvements to MacOS 9.2.2+ (Ho, I forgot that has been dropped since Leopard... kind of reminiscent of VISTA and backwards compatibility. Now in X we get that extra comfort of watching the crappy beach ball of death spin forever on a PPC/intel based machines when it tries to think about priority queuing... I might as well have a system 11 crash and reboot in 9.2.2 which would take quicker to do than watching that crappy animation)... What was wrong with waitnextevent?? I run 10.4.11 and it runs like a three legged dog on my dual G4 (max ram/running 3xscsi 160 HDs). There is no lag of any kind in 9.
- forgetting that there are other companies that do cross platform applications, and that even though Mac runs Intel (another issue on my plate), and that even NOW the Windows SDK libraries closely resemble Original MacOS toolbox! Meaning that applications would be easily ported across by using Carbon skeleton framework. I know I'm going to get some guy and tell me otherwise... The real truth behind having more Windows applications that Mac applications is not so much about the hardware used or the number of peripherals (more choices is not always good... a statement which I recall Gil Amelio say... that is why when have a very selected few number of choices in products and variations of products), it’s the number people that want the software. That was when Apple was in Pre X mode, and now when Apple is in X mode. There is no reason for a company to devote their time and cash just to accommodate the few. Of course no one wants to put money down for
some 3-5%
market share group like Apple and have a handful of people on the planet actually using Objective-C. I, myself would rather use 64bit Carbon any day compared to Objective-C rubbish.
- Reinvent the wheel over and over again. Carbon was a mature product, and like everything else it may have had some limitations, which I think any competent programmers could overcome. Anything is possible in the programming game. Those widgets things... another waste of time and CPU cycles ... I guess everyone on this list likes wasting their computers memory and HD space for rubbish... MacOS in my opinion is becoming more like MS windows/MS Office, an over bloated beast that consumes both speed and space and really doesn't help users in any way apart from creating more anxiety. I think Apple forgot the true meaning of their initial mission statement when they created MacOS classic... simplicity and power and efficiency!
Can you see why Apple doesn't want 64 bit carbon.... it’s because Objective-C nerds have an ego much like all other forms of programmers that I've come across... all stating that each of their technologies is the be all in all things.... what a joke!
Long live carbon. Long live Classic, and for those of you that believe in what I say, give us a yell.
Cheers
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----- Original Message ----
From: ZhaoYu <email@hidden>
To: email@hidden
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 11:10:39 AM
Subject: No session about Carbon in WWDC
Hi,
Why I can't find any session about Carbon in WWDC? As the session list posted in Apple web site, it seems Apple only care about Cocoa now. And I heard a news that Adobe will havae not 64-bit CS4 for Mac because they can't migrate CS4 to Cocoa.
ZY
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