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Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC




Le 8 avr. 08 à 20:03, Ingemar Ragnemalm a écrit :

Tiberius Meszaros <email@hidden> wrote:

> Cocoa is complete and utter crap... Full stop! I don't see why Apple dropped the true and tested Apple toolbox over some unproven garbage named after a caffeine plant.


I agree (although some will argue about "unproven"), but what makes us happy and productive is not necessarily the same that makes NeXT, I mean Apple, make money. There are both marketing reasons and political reasons.


> - don't make improvements to MacOS 9.2.2+ ... What was wrong with waitnextevent?? I run 10.4.11 and it runs like a three legged dog on my dual G4 (max ram/running 3xscsi 160 HDs). There is no lag of any kind in 9.

OS9 is indeed a LOT faster than OSX. I think OS9 was too good. All it needed was memory protection, and there are rumors that Apple had that working in-house. But Apple does not make money from a finished product that doesn't need improvements!

And to be fair, OS9 had been an oddball all the time, and the rest of the industry was pushing it to conform. Apple was bleeding and needed to win market shares. Critical players demanded a Unix core. Apple needed to show BIG changes, not fixes on OS9.

You should probably review the OS 9 history. OS 9 was faster for sure, but it does not even got a preemptive scheduler. Every minor error in third party applications crash the whole system. It's was PowerPC only. It was absolutly not design to be multi-user friendly. It's the result of many years of failure to write a reliable Operating System.
Sometime you have to accept evidence and learn from the past, and that's what Apple did, and it did well.


> I, myself would rather use 64bit Carbon any day compared to Objective-C rubbish.

Me too, but we are not vital to Apple. We don't make Apple earn millions. If you are Adobe or Microsoft, then you get what you want.

Yes, everybody now that Adobe and Microsoft are pushing Apple to drop 64 bits carbon. They don't need it at all. That's not as if Photoshop and Office were Carbon Applications.



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