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Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC


On Apr 10, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Philip Aker wrote:
What was brought over from NeXT that is good is mach, the notion of a system wide root object and more rigorously enforced inheritance policy. Carbon, CoreFoundation, et. al. attain a cleaner, faster, more modern, and more cross-platform viable implementation of the preceding while preserving much of what was excellent about MacOS. People say that it's easier to get up and running in Cocoa. But that's only because Apple unwisely spent the money to develop the accessors and conveniences in Objective-C rather than go with the better Carbon design.

I can't make an informed judgement about Cocoa from a technical or even design standpoint, but the promise of Cocoa is supposed to be that it allows developers to build better applications faster. Speaking only as a long time Mac user, I am not impressed with the results. I don't use lots of Cocoa applications, but most of the applications I use these days are Cocoa and overall I'm not impressed. In general I find them to be slow, at times quirky (for lack of a better term), and frequently lacking the same level of usability and polish I would expect from the same application if it were a Carbon application. I won't try to attribute any of this to technical limitations of Cocoa, I'm just saying that one would think with such a slick system for developing software Cocoa developers would be able to use the time Cocoa frees up for them to produce better stuff than what I've seen.

That's just kind of a "bottom line" assessment. I don't want to get into an argument about how you can write good and bad software in either Carbon or Cocoa because I'm sure that's true. But what's possible doesn't interest me. What I get when I use the software I use is all that matters to me and the majority of the Cocoa software I use leaves me unimpressed.

Larry
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 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: Jack Small <email@hidden>)
 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: Bill Bumgarner <email@hidden>)
 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: "parag vibhute" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: Tim McGaughy <email@hidden>)
 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: Jack Small <email@hidden>)
 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: Tim McGaughy <email@hidden>)
 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: Jonas Maebe <email@hidden>)
 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: Laurence Harris <email@hidden>)
 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: Stefan Werner <email@hidden>)
 >Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC (From: Philip Aker <email@hidden>)



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