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Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC




Le 11 avr. 08 à 08:14, Philip Aker a écrit :

On 08-04-10, at 14:34, Scott Ribe wrote:

But that's only because Apple unwisely spent the money to develop the accessors and conveniences in Objective-C rather than go with the better Carbon design.

No it's not. I has very little to do with accessors and conveniences, and nearly everything to do with design.

Well, I didn't explicitly state 'design' but thought it implicit in "the notion of a system wide root object and more rigorously enforced inheritance policy". But yes, it is a critical element, and yes, the Carbon team were/are effectively starved of the kind of resources and encouragement that allows them to do much design. Specifically, there still aren't enough capabilities in the so- called polymorpism of CFTypeRefs to enable the class-like inheritance that would permit a unified UI model shared between Carbon and Cocoa. Not to mention lack of support for archiving anything except the plist basics in CoreFoundation. The fact that HIViews were largely in place in 10.2 speaks volumes about how the team accomplished more with less. Essentially putting the Cocoamites to shame for both productivity and succinctness of expression.


Philip Aker
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And what you suggest it to add so-called polymorpism to the CFRuntime. And as we are here, we can also add some features like and dynamic binding, and dynamic class generation. And maybe we can defined some macros to help developpers to use those features using plain C. And we can maybe find a new name for this style of C with object semantic?
And after that, Apple we be able to rewrite HIView and friends to match the NSView model and conveniences.


Or maybe I miss your point ?



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