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Re: No session about Carbon in WWDC




On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Jean-Daniel Dupas wrote:

Le 11 avr. 08 à 08:14, Philip Aker a écrit :

Specifically, there still aren't enough capabilities in the so- called polymorpism of CFTypeRefs to enable the class-like inheritance that would permit a unified UI model shared between Carbon and Cocoa.

And what you suggest it to add so-called polymorpism to the CFRuntime. And as we are here, we can also add some features like and dynamic binding, and dynamic class generation. And maybe we can defined some macros to help developpers to use those features using plain C. And we can maybe find a new name for this style of C with object semantic?
And after that, Apple we be able to rewrite HIView and friends to match the NSView model and conveniences.


Or maybe I miss your point ?

Yes right there at the end.

The point, if I may be so bold, would be to create a dynamic object exchange in order to bridge disparate object models in a simple but robust way. Something that generic, one-way bridges can never do. The whole point would be to have a plain C interface. No defines or macros or new semantics. It would seem logical to make it part of CoreFoundation and provide a platform agnostic interface for developers that need to maintain code bases in several operating systems.

Ordered C structs, Objective-C, C++, three possible object models already exist within the C language itself. Imagine how powerful it would be to have a single interface for all/any of them. Then you add all the others like PHP or AS or Object Fortran, oh my.

Even to give this a half hearted try would demonstrate and understanding that our issues are not just whining, they are real. Instead we get the CarbonCocoa Temperature converter that seems to only prove their is no serious transitionary technology at all. No session at WWDC about it at all. Are we to just never speak of it again?

What's is truly so frustrating, besides the incessant posturing, is that in reality we are almost there. We are so close. Closer than we have ever been. All the parts are in place, the people are in place, the only thing missing is the will from the top. If we have the parts we need, we can adapt, and I for one would like that.

More later,
Jack


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