On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Laurence Harris <email@hidden> wrote:
> I can't make an informed judgement about Cocoa from a technical or even
> design standpoint, but the promise of Cocoa is supposed to be that it allows
> developers to build better applications faster. Speaking only as a long time
> Mac user, I am not impressed with the results. I don't use lots of Cocoa
> applications, but most of the applications I use these days are Cocoa and
> overall I'm not impressed. In general I find them to be slow, at times
> quirky (for lack of a better term), and frequently lacking the same level of
> usability and polish I would expect from the same application if it were a
> Carbon application. I won't try to attribute any of this to technical
> limitations of Cocoa, I'm just saying that one would think with such a slick
> system for developing software Cocoa developers would be able to use the
> time Cocoa frees up for them to produce better stuff than what I've seen.
>
> That's just kind of a "bottom line" assessment. I don't want to get into an
> argument about how you can write good and bad software in either Carbon or
> Cocoa because I'm sure that's true. But what's possible doesn't interest me.
> What I get when I use the software I use is all that matters to me and the
> majority of the Cocoa software I use leaves me unimpressed.
Ironically, you could swap "Cocoa" and "Carbon" in your statement and
you would have my precise sentiments on the issue. I suspect that both
of us are looking at it with more emotion than reason.
Note that I don't want to bash Carbon. After all, I'm on this list,
and I'm not here to make fun of people. But from where I stand,
building an entire app in Carbon requires so much extra work to get
everything right that it just isn't done, even by very dedicated
people who really want to. Maybe I'm just using the wrong apps, but
this is how it looks to me.
And just to cover my rear, I've been using Macs for about two decades
so I'm not one of these supposed recent immigrants who doesn't know
what real Mac apps are supposed to look like.
Mike
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