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Re: Login nightmare




On 25 Jan 2008, at 15:02, Nick Kutzko wrote:

No, the machhine didn't take a half hour to log in, the trace ran after. I
wasn't sure how long I was supposed to let it run.


That webserver might be the server for the website the kids were using that
day. They were doing some kind of activity that had a lot of flash
animation and whatnot.


The OD server's nighest CPU that day was around 80-90%, but the network
throughput is only 3MB/sec. Does that seem right? So much power and so
little traffic?

If it's thrashing the disks around a lot, that's not really surprising. What are the specs of your server (Disk, CPU, RAM)?


-geoff



On 1/25/08 6:24 AM, "Geoff Lee" <email@hidden> wrote:


Hi,

On 23 Jan 2008, at 15:39, Nick Kutzko wrote:

Here's the output file. I'd appreciate anything you can tell me.

It raises a few questions...

Did the machine really take half an hour to log in, or was the trace
running after it finished?

What is the webserver at 206.166.93.137 doing (actually I don't think
this is important, it just seems to generate a lot of traffic at the
start if the trace).

What is the load on your AFP server during these logins? How much RAM
does it have?

Really all I can see from the trace is that there is a _lot_ of AFP
activity and that it takes a long time, This may indicate that your
AFP server simply can't handle that number of people logging in
simultaneously: it causes huge amounts of disk activity...

If you could do a similar trace of a quick login by the same account
for comparison, it might shed some more light on the situation...

HTH

-geoff



On 1/23/08 9:23 AM, "Geoff Lee" <email@hidden> wrote:


On 23 Jan 2008, at 15:18, Nick Kutzko wrote:

I did the dump, but I can't find the file. Where does it save to?

You should end up with a file called slowlogin.tcpdump in your working directory.

-geoff



On 1/23/08 6:11 AM, "Geoff Lee" <email@hidden> wrote:

Hi Nick,

On 22 Jan 2008, at 20:37, Nick Kutzko wrote:

Our users are taking anywhere from 2-5 minutes to login through
OD.
I have
tested users, groups, computers, the servers and I'm totally lost.
Sometimes, they don't even get logged in for half of a class
period. My
account logs in quickly, less than 30 seconds, and when I tested
users
individually they were equally fast. However, come class time
when
they all
try to log in (25 kids, roughly) it lags or locks up. Any
suggestions? I
tried using a folder redirect through WGM, but it doesn't seem to
help.

A packet trace can be invaluable in these situations. SSH into a machine and run

tcpdump -vvv -i en0 -s0 -w slowlogin.tcpdump

Now log into the machine as a student and wait... Hit ctrl-C on
your
monitoring machine once the process has finished.

Then pop open the tcpdump file in wireshark (formerly ethereal,
available from darwinports) and have a look-see.

If this sounds daunting, feel free to mail me the output file from
tcpdump and I'll have a look...


HTH

-geoff

______________________________________
Geoff Lee <email@hidden>
Computing Support
School of Arts, Culture and Environment
University of Edinburgh
20 Chambers St,
Edinburgh, Scotland,
EH1 1JZ
Tel: +44 (0)131 650 2341
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______________________________________ Geoff Lee <email@hidden> Computing Support School of Arts, Culture and Environment University of Edinburgh 20 Chambers St, Edinburgh, Scotland, EH1 1JZ Tel: +44 (0)131 650 2341 ______________________________________









______________________________________ Geoff Lee <email@hidden> Computing Support School of Arts, Culture and Environment University of Edinburgh 20 Chambers St, Edinburgh, Scotland, EH1 1JZ Tel: +44 (0)131 650 2341 ______________________________________






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