Hi Nick,
You should definetly put more RAM in your servers. I would recommend at least 4GB each.
Best of luck,
Jason M. Whitaker
Academic Systems and Network Manager
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Friends Seminary
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Nick Kutzko <email@hidden> writes:
>Oops, didn't realize it wasn't sending to the list when I hit reply.
>
>Ok, so I'll answer all those in oder.
>
>1) The OD master is a G5 Xserve with 2GB RAM running 10.5.1. Homes are
>stored on that server.
>
>2) Yes, there is a replica server, a G4 Xserve with 2GB of RAM. This
>server also shares a student applicans folder.
>
>3) Yes, DNS is functioning properly. I've tested it several times and
>everything resolves forward and back.
>
>4) The clients are a mix. There are G4 eMacs from 700MHz-1GHz, G5 iMacs,
>Intel iMacs. All machines are running 10.5.1 (yeah, I know the 700s are
>below the requirements, but it still runs fine).
>
>5) There are no hubs or switches other than the Cisco 100baseT switches in
>the data closets. We also use Cisco wireless Aps. There is no difference
>between wired and wireless clients in regards to the problem I'm seeing.
>
>6) No, there is no possible way clients are trying to connect via anything
>but the built-in ethernet or wireless. All machines were imaged using the
>same image.
>
>I would also like to add that the issue seems random. Sometimes, an entire
>class will login just fine and the next will take 25 minutes. I have
>noticed that the problem is worse when another team is using their laptops,
>which would essentially mean about 60 clients trying to log in at the same
>time, but that was never as large of a problem before Leopard. Actually,
>those laptops are still running 10.4.9 or 10.4.10.
>
>
>
>
>On 1/23/08 7:49 PM, "Jeff Kelleher" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Hey Nick:
>>
>> Looking at the logs I'd consider making sure RemoteDesktop is up-to-date
>> along with any other updates you may need.
>>
>> Beyond that, the list works best when you reply to the list. Others may
>> chime in with responses, and I'm far from the most knowledgeable source on
>> the list.
>>
>> You really need to include:
>> What machine is the OD master. How much RAM does it have and what OS? Where
>> are homes stored - locally, on the OD master, on another server? Is there a
>> replica server? (there should be) Is DNS fully functioning? Are the clients
>> say, 4 yr. old eMacs running 10.2, 10.3, 10.4 and a few G3 iMacs? Are they
>> intel iMacs? What sort of networking hardware do you have. Did you borrow an
>> old 10 base T hub from a junk pile or are you running gigabit switches - or
>> maybe your clients are trying to connect via DSL (I hope not). I'm being a
>> bit goofy here, but you really need to provide more info, otherwise we're
>> all just guessing.
>>
>> Hth
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On 1/23/08 10:06 AM, "Nick Kutzko" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you want the server log or the client log? Server log looks ok, and
>>> client seems ok, but there's some weirdness going on I don't quite
>>> understand.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1/22/08 8:24:22 AM com.apple.launchd[1]
>>> (com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[66]) Exited: Terminated
>>> 1/22/08 9:03:06 AM com.apple.loginwindow[34] Tue Jan 22 09:03:06
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[34] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections:
>>> Detaching application from window server
>>> 1/22/08 9:03:06 AM com.apple.WindowServer[54] mach_msg (CGXKickEventHandler)
>>> failed (ipc/send) timed out
>>> 1/22/08 9:03:06 AM com.apple.loginwindow[34] Tue Jan 22 09:03:06
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[34] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching
>>> display subsystem from window server
>>> 1/22/08 9:03:12 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.RemoteDesktop.agent[178])
>>> Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 185 PPID 1
>>> AppleVNCServer
>>> 1/22/08 9:03:12 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.RemoteDesktop.agent)
>>> Throttling respawn: Will start in 7 seconds
>>> 1/22/08 9:03:15 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.RemoteDesktop.agent)
>>> Throttling respawn: Will start in 4 seconds
>>> 1/22/08 9:03:15 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.RemoteDesktop.agent)
>>> Throttling respawn: Will start in 4 seconds
>>> 1/22/08 9:11:59 AM com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please convert
>>> the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/dashboardadvisoryd.plist
>>> 1/22/08 9:11:59 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.cups.cupsd) Unknown key:
>>> SHAuthorizationRight
>>> 1/22/08 9:11:59 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.ntp.ntpd) Unknown key:
>>> SHAuthorizationRight
>>> 1/22/08 9:12:01 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.openssh.sshd) Unknown key:
>>> SHAuthorizationRight
>>> 1/22/08 9:12:08 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.RemoteDesktop.agent)
>>> Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
>>> 1/22/08 9:12:14 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.RemoteDesktop.agent)
>>> Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
>>> 1/22/08 9:12:14 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.RemoteDesktop.agent)
>>> Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
>>> 1/22/08 9:12:14 AM com.apple.KerberosAutoConfig[74] Kerberos configuration
>>> is up to date
>>> 1/22/08 9:12:15 AM com.apple.KerberosAutoConfig[75] Kerberos configuration
>>> is up to date
>>> 1/22/08 9:14:27 AM com.apple.launchd[1]
>>> (com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[66]) Exited: Terminated
>>> 1/22/08 9:47:04 AM com.apple.loginwindow[33] Tue Jan 22 09:47:04
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[33] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections:
>>> Detaching application from window server
>>> 1/22/08 9:47:04 AM com.apple.WindowServer[55] mach_msg (CGXKickEventHandler)
>>> failed (ipc/send) timed out
>>> 1/22/08 9:47:04 AM com.apple.loginwindow[33] Tue Jan 22 09:47:04
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[33] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching
>>> display subsystem from window server
>>> 1/22/08 9:50:01 AM com.apple.launchd[1]
>>> (com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[175]) Exited: Terminated
>>> 1/22/08 9:50:08 AM com.apple.loginwindow[168]
>>> _LSSetDefaultSchemeHandlerURL("http") == -10813
>>> 1/22/08 9:50:08 AM com.apple.loginwindow[168]
>>> _LSSetDefaultSchemeHandlerURL("https") == -10813
>>> 1/22/08 9:50:08 AM com.apple.loginwindow[168]
>>> _LSSetDefaultSchemeHandlerURL("ftp") == -10813
>>> 1/22/08 10:31:27 AM com.apple.loginwindow[168] Tue Jan 22 10:31:27
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[168] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections:
>>> Detaching application from window server
>>> 1/22/08 10:31:27 AM com.apple.loginwindow[168] Tue Jan 22 10:31:27
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[168] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching
>>> display subsystem from window server
>>> 1/22/08 11:48:33 AM com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please convert
>>> the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/dashboardadvisoryd.plist
>>> 1/22/08 11:48:33 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.cups.cupsd) Unknown key:
>>> SHAuthorizationRight
>>> 1/22/08 11:48:33 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.ntp.ntpd) Unknown key:
>>> SHAuthorizationRight
>>> 1/22/08 11:48:34 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.openssh.sshd) Unknown key:
>>> SHAuthorizationRight
>>> 1/22/08 11:48:46 AM com.apple.KerberosAutoConfig[79] Kerberos configuration
>>> is up to date
>>> 1/22/08 11:48:48 AM com.apple.KerberosAutoConfig[80] Kerberos configuration
>>> is up to date
>>> 1/22/08 1:06:49 PM com.apple.launchd[1]
>>> (com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[65]) Exited: Terminated
>>> 1/22/08 1:06:51 PM com.apple.loginwindow[33]
>>> _LSSetDefaultSchemeHandlerURL("http") == -10813
>>> 1/22/08 1:06:51 PM com.apple.loginwindow[33]
>>> _LSSetDefaultSchemeHandlerURL("https") == -10813
>>> 1/22/08 1:06:51 PM com.apple.loginwindow[33]
>>> _LSSetDefaultSchemeHandlerURL("ftp") == -10813
>>> 1/22/08 1:42:23 PM com.apple.loginwindow[33] Tue Jan 22 13:42:23
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[33] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections:
>>> Detaching application from window server
>>> 1/22/08 1:42:23 PM com.apple.loginwindow[33] Tue Jan 22 13:42:23
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[33] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching
>>> display subsystem from window server
>>> 1/22/08 1:42:29 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.RemoteDesktop.agent[177])
>>> Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 180 PPID 1
>>> AppleVNCServer
>>> 1/22/08 1:42:29 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.RemoteDesktop.agent)
>>> Throttling respawn: Will start in 7 seconds
>>> 1/22/08 1:44:32 PM com.apple.launchd[1]
>>> (com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[178]) Exited: Terminated
>>> 1/23/08 8:10:51 AM com.apple.launchctl.System[2] fsck_hfs: Volume is
>>> journaled. No checking performed.
>>> 1/23/08 8:10:51 AM com.apple.launchctl.System[2] fsck_hfs: Use the -f option
>>> to force checking.
>>> 1/23/08 8:10:55 AM com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please convert
>>> the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/dashboardadvisoryd.plist
>>> 1/23/08 8:10:55 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.cups.cupsd) Unknown key:
>>> SHAuthorizationRight
>>> 1/23/08 8:10:55 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.ntp.ntpd) Unknown key:
>>> SHAuthorizationRight
>>> 1/23/08 8:10:58 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.openssh.sshd) Unknown key:
>>> SHAuthorizationRight
>>> 1/23/08 8:11:09 AM com.apple.KerberosAutoConfig[78] Kerberos configuration
>>> is up to date
>>> 1/23/08 8:11:10 AM com.apple.KerberosAutoConfig[79] Kerberos configuration
>>> is up to date
>>> 1/23/08 8:25:52 AM com.apple.launchd[1]
>>> (com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[65]) Exited: Terminated
>>> 1/23/08 8:26:27 AM com.apple.loginwindow[33]
>>> _LSSetDefaultSchemeHandlerURL("http") == -10813
>>> 1/23/08 8:26:27 AM com.apple.loginwindow[33]
>>> _LSSetDefaultSchemeHandlerURL("https") == -10813
>>> 1/23/08 8:26:27 AM com.apple.loginwindow[33]
>>> _LSSetDefaultSchemeHandlerURL("ftp") == -10813
>>> 1/23/08 8:56:18 AM com.apple.loginwindow[33] Wed Jan 23 08:56:18
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[33] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections:
>>> Detaching application from window server
>>> 1/23/08 8:56:19 AM com.apple.loginwindow[33] Wed Jan 23 08:56:19
>>> Clab14.local loginwindow[33] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching
>>> display subsystem from window server
>>> 1/23/08 8:58:46 AM com.apple.launchd[1]
>>> (com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[172]) Exited: Terminated
>>> 1/23/08 8:58:46 AM com.apple.launchd[311] (0x4038f0.AppleVNCServer[174])
>>> Failed to add kevent for PID 174. Will unload at MIG return
>>>
>>> On 1/22/08 6:10 PM, "Jeff Kelleher" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/22/08 5:08 PM, "Josh Wisenbaker" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Nick Kutzko wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Our users are taking anywhere from 2-5 minutes to login through OD.
>>>>>> I have
>>>>>> tested users, groups, computers, the servers and I'm totally lost.
>>>>>> Sometimes, they don't even get logged in for half of a class
>>>>>> period. My
>>>>>> account logs in quickly, less than 30 seconds, and when I tested users
>>>>>> individually they were equally fast. However, come class time when
>>>>>> they all
>>>>>> try to log in (25 kids, roughly) it lags or locks up. Any
>>>>>> suggestions? I
>>>>>> tried using a folder redirect through WGM, but it doesn't seem to
>>>>>> help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you tried the mcx redirector I assume you have network homes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>> And if you do have network homes, where are they stored?
>>>> Since individuals seem OK, there's at least a chance you have a bottleneck
>>>> somewhere - either your network or HD.
>>>> Have you checked your logs to see what's going on? Are they different when
>>>> an individual logs on vs. 25 users at once? What OS/hardware are the clients
>>>> and the server? More info would be good.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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