The vast majority of this thread, if not all of it, has been about
people struggling to understand the frameworks as they are.
Like Sherm, I do not agree with this. This thread has been about much
more -- has been much bigger -- than a couple of people struggling
with Cocoa, which may be why some people have taken comments more
personally than they were intended..
Most of this thread, if not all, has NOT been about people failing
to read the HIG.
I did not mention the HIG on purpose. Although I suggest reading it,
consistency goes far beyond conforming your UI to the HIG. Working
with Cocoa rather than trying to force it to use design patterns and
philosophies from other languages and platforms will very often, as a
side effect, make your application non-standard in subtle but
potentially frustrating ways for your user. Of course, until you have
the "big picture", it's hard to see how that could be true but, trust
me, it is.
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