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Re: Adobe Sheetfed Coated V2 in proofer



I just received printed samples and proofs of various jobs the printer has done and it looks like the proofs are not very accurate. Good enough for most jobs, not for color critical work. I just can't understand why a direct to plate printer wouldn't have a press profile.
Roger, do you have any actual specs for the sheetfed coated v2 profile. I thought it was done from a 175 line, 350 max density press run.
Thanks for all responses to my dilemma.
Steve Laws



On Wednesday, January 19, 2005, at 11:36 AM, email@hidden wrote:


Steve,

I have a few questions about a printer that I am preparing files for.
They tell me that they are using the Adobe Sheetfed coated V2 profile
in their Epson 9600 and that they have matched their press to the
proofer. This sounds backwards to me. Is this possible?

Lot's of printers don't even want to start profiling their press. There are
pros and cons to this. But that's reality.


 Can a press be
manipulated to match a proofer using a generic profile.

To a certain extent, yes. The same printers I refer to above have fashioned
their proofer (read 9600) simulations after some analog laminated proofs
like Matchprint or ColorArt or Approval. As long as their press can
emcompass all colors of the simulations, yes, it's certainly possible to
have the press match the proof.


 And why would
you do this. I am very skeptical.

Bear in mind that US SheetfedCoated v2 is actually a Matchprint profile in
sheepskin clothing. Your printer may not even know this. But as long as
they're satisfied they can hit those colors on press, there is no harm.


 I am preparing a catalog of framed
art and the color of the frames and mats are critical. Making 2 and 3
percent moves based on their proof. Any comments would be appreciated.
Steve Laws

Good luck.

Roger Breton  |  Laval, Canada  |  email@hidden
http://pages.infinit.net/graxx




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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:32:17 -0500
From: Jim Rich <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Adobe Sheetfed Coated V2 in proofer
To: Steve Laws <email@hidden>,
	<email@hidden>
Message-ID: <BE1403D1.1AF25%email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

On 1/19/05 12:09 PM, "Steve Laws" <email@hidden> wrote:

Greetings
I have a few questions about a printer that I am preparing files for.
They tell me that they are using the Adobe Sheetfed coated V2 profile
in their Epson 9600 and that they have matched their press to the
proofer. This sounds backwards to me. Is this possible? Can a press be
manipulated to match a proofer using a generic profile. And why would
you do this. I am very skeptical. I am preparing a catalog of framed
art and the color of the frames and mats are critical. Making 2 and 3
percent moves based on their proof. Any comments would be appreciated.
Steve Laws


Steve,
Without knowing the details of the color proofing system (such as if there
is a rip driving it) , it sounds like the Adobe Sheetfed coated v2 is being
used as the simulation profile in conjunction with the 9600 printer profile.


But that is just a guess.

As for making a small color correction, my guess again is that you are
swimming up stream until you know that the service provider can prove to you
the proofs match or have a relationship to the printing press. One solution
would be to send out for a proof and then send the same file on another day
and then compare the result.


Jim Rich




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