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Re: Black and white negative scanning



Regarding the imaging workflow, I think more or less a common
methodology (setting black point, 'neutral'scan, then Photoshop) has
emerged, except some prefer grayscale and some prefer RGB + desaturate.
Regarding wet mounting, I'll see what I can do :-). Thank you so much
for giving me the opportunity to learn all these things.

Ludovico Fischer


On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 10:04 -0500, Richard Frederickson [Contr] wrote:
> Ludovico,
> Unless you have scratched negs, as noted, there are much better 
> alternatives to gel.
> 
> The scanner I use is an Imacon Flextight 949 (the current model is a 
> Hasselblad X5). I scan EM negatives here, which have a very high 
> dynamic range and can be quite grainy. This scanner's dynamic range 
> exceeds the densest negative I've come across (including some 
> bullet-proof WWWII era b&w negs).
> 
> The Flextight system uses a flexible holder that bends the film as 
> it's being scanned--this way the film is always flat at the optical 
> axis. There is no need for oil or gel since no glass comes in contact 
> with the film.
> 
> For black and white negatives, I scan to 16-bit grayscale TIFF and 
> include the ICC profile. Most often, I just set the white point and 
> black point (a white point to maintain at least a 2-3% highlight dot 
> and a black point to avoid clipping in the shadows). Any image 
> adjustments are then performed in Photoshop using layers.
> 
> Hope this is helpful,
> Richard
> 
> Richard Frederickson [Contractor]
> Senior Technical Specialist
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> >With all regards to Martin, I doubt that there are many professional 
> >scanner operators who have used oil in the last 10 years. When KAMI 
> >introduced its Scanner Mounting Fluid it did not make sense anymore 
> >to deal with the mess of the oil. The fluid is probably related to 
> >film cleaner, in that it is thin and evaporates quickly once 
> >dismounted, but it's a different beast, because straight film 
> >cleaner would damage the acrylic drums that are used on scanners. 
> >You can usually obtain some from your local pre-press supplier, or 
> >try this website:  http://tinyurl.com/ybsuth
> >
> >Liquid mounts for scanning film have been used for many years. The 
> >advantages that Martin describes are very real. However, the only 
> >time oil is still used is for heavily, deeply scratched film, where 
> >the oil fills in the scratches better than the thin mounting fluid. 
> >But even there, KAMI supplies a gel that is easier to clean up than 
> >oil. The basic technique is as follows: tape the film to the bed or 
> >the drum, with one side free to lift up. Cut a piece of clear mylar 
> >(AGFA C-42 is best) 3 times larger than the film, and tape it down 
> >over the film, with one end free again. Pour scanner mounting fluid 
> >under the film, over the film while holding the mylar, then bring 
> >the mylar overlay down onto the film and the bed. Squeeze out any 
> >air bubbles with a clean cloth, then tape all sides of the mylar to 
> >seal the mount. It's best to use KAMI tape as well, since it does 
> >not dissolve into a gooey mess like regular Scotch tape, but you can 
> >manage without it.
> >
> >Chris Protopapas
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> >
> >
> >>WOW! I had never heard of this tecnique. I'm afraid I don't understand.
> >>Do the negs have to be floating in film cleaner WHILE I scan them? How
> >>is that achieved? Or just before and THEN covered with foil? Do you know
> >>of a place or a book where I could learn about this? You're really
> >>telling me something here.
> >>
> >>Ludovico Fischer
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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