Re: OpenDarwin closing

Please, can we end this thread before people start bringing up black helicopters and the Knights Templar too?   OpenDarwin has decided to shut down.  It was a sovereign project and not under Apple's control, so all these conspiracy theories linking it to Apple's own open source plans are baseless and don't add any value to the darwin-dev mailing list.  Apple's own open source page, http://developer.apple.com/opensource/, is right where it's always been and continues to provide various open source resources to the community.   When and if we make any changes to our open source offerings or services, you'll hear about it through the appropriate apple.com channels, not opendarwin or slashdot!

And yes, I'm well aware of the fact that many folks feel they aren't getting as much information as they'd like, or in as timely a fashion as they'd like, through those same apple.com channels but try and be patient all the same.  We're all working as hard as we can within certain constraints here.

- Jordan

On Jul 27, 2006, at 1:02 AM, michael-amorose.com Lists wrote:

Open Source is and always has been a Communist canard. There is yet to be a pure open source business model that is profitable.

The only successful open source projects are ones that use open source as a *basis* for closed systems such as OS X does (there are others).

Steve probably got tired of hackers creating security problems for OS X. Sure the upside is many contributors but there are many downsides such as giving created value away for free and opening one's code to attack because malicious programmers can freely and analyze the sources to look for ways to exploit weaknesses.

"The capitalists of the world and their governments, in the pursuit of the conquest of the Soviet market, will close their eyes to the indicated higher reality, and thus will turn into deaf, mute, blind men. They will extend credits in giving us the materials and technology we lack. They will restore our military industry, indispensible for our future victorious attacks on our suppliers. In other words, they will labor for the preparation for their own suicide."

-- Vladimir Lenin

-m

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At 9:29 PM +0200 7/26/06, Markus Hitter wrote:

Am 26.07.2006 um 20:37 schrieb Dave Schroeder:

Why is this disappointing?

This is another step towards Mac OS X becoming fully closed source.

what exactly has OpenDarwin-proper done in the last few years?

They made about all of the Darwin projects buildable for the public. As you probably know, sources posted at Apple Darwin aren't always free of glitches.

but what are we losing here, at present?

A central point for working with Apple's open source.

And why should How Tos, etc., be lost?

Because the server might disappear some day in a not too distant future? Probably there will be at least some backups available elsewhere, but this obviously isn't worked out yet.


Markus

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