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Re: Kernel Panic during startup on iMac

Insufficient information.

The whole panic message is needed, along with version information to even start to diagnose this. In probability order:

(1) Third party KEXT not intended for this version of the OS and/or with bug

(2) His RAM has come unseated due to vibration/thermal expansion/ whatever other environmental conditions

(3) Third party RAM that can't switch it's clock rate back up in spec after it's been clocked down by power management once, or some other issue that is the reason it failed Apple certification

(4) Other Software

(5) Other hardware

He needs to file a bug report with the version of the OS, or just take the thing in for service. A bug report might cost him less (nothing) for some problems, but take longer than paying for service.

-- Terry

On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:30 PM, Michael Cashwell wrote:
It sure sounds like a motherboard failure. Perhaps someone with more info could decompose the error message further. I doubt that the Genius Bar is setup to do actual component-level diagnostics but they could help with repair.

I don't suppose there was any unusual event when this started? Lighting, power surge, etc.?

But at least you know at this point that it's a hardware issue and that software updates and rebuilds aren't likely to solve it.

Good luck!
-Mike

On Aug 7, 2007, at 4:30 PM, Al Ciplickas wrote:

Thanks, Mike.
So I tried OF at startup and got these lines:

bad Bus Info CRC-16
Apple PowerMac8, 2 5.2.5f1 BootROM built on 04/06/05 at 12:46:02
etc.

Now, I assume the first line is a hint that I have a "bad Bus" somewhere (cpu data bus?).
Would the Genius Bar (with an appointment) be able to do any hardware diagnostics?

-Al-

On Aug 7, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Michael Cashwell wrote:

On Aug 7, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Al Ciplickas wrote:

Mike, I'll try the D feature on the CD _if_ I can ever get it to work, but this system is 2 years old. Would the developer MacOS Tiger DVD have the same feature?

I do not think so. Each system's diagnostic tool is tightly coupled to that hardware. I've never had any success using anything other than the install/restore disks originally supplied. You might be able to take the machine to a Genius Bar (with an appointment) and they might have the right disks.

Can I do anything in the Open Firmware screen to do testing? 

This is just my understanding. I have no authoritative data here...

Not of the sort that the diagnostic tools do. There quite a bit of OF/EFI code being pulled from the disks in those cases that's not present in the boot FLASH. (The disks supply more than just a UI to run the tests.)

-Mike



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References: 


 >Kernel Panic during startup on iMac (From: Al Ciplickas <email@hidden>)


 >Re: Kernel Panic during startup on iMac (From: Terry Lambert <email@hidden>)


 >Re: Kernel Panic during startup on iMac (From: Allen Briggs <email@hidden>)


 >Re: Kernel Panic during startup on iMac (From: Al Ciplickas <email@hidden>)


 >Re: Kernel Panic during startup on iMac (From: Michael Cashwell <email@hidden>)


 >Re: Kernel Panic during startup on iMac (From: Al Ciplickas <email@hidden>)


 >Re: Kernel Panic during startup on iMac (From: Michael Cashwell <email@hidden>)























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