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Re: Apple Reorganizes Open Source Web Presence

I think this viewpoint gives apple too little credit for having thought about this issue in depth and trying to come up with the best solution given all of the constraints involved. It's easy to have a utopian vision of "how things should be" when you're outside the company and aren't constrained by the harsh realities of how things actually work in practice when slashdot's "anonymous coward" legions are involved to any extent.

The OpenDarwin effort IS our best attempt to empower all those "people on the outside" to do whatever it is they want with Darwin, from compiling their own distributions to trying out experimental new things that they couldn't get enough "Darwin committers" to do before. I think it's actually pretty impressive for Apple to donate resources to this and in effect relax control even more when the first reaction of most companies to the screaming of the slashdot crowd is to close the gates and start heating up the boiling oil.

- Jordan

On Sunday, May 5, 2002, at 01:34 , Markus Hitter wrote:


Am Samstag den, 4. Mai 2002, um 05:11, schrieb Jordan Hubbard:

2. We now have lost any semblance of synchronization with apple's internal darwin bug reporting. All old bugs are no longer viewable. We don't get to see apple engineer's comments on the bugs anymore.

As Ron has already pointed out, this was actually lost some time ago and OpenDarwin's allowing open source folks to track their own bugs is certainly no worse than the nothing we have now. Access to Apple's internal bug tracking information was a luxury which is never likely to be regained.

Sounds like Apple wants to be sure, people working on Darwin inside and outside Apple are citizens of different worlds. Big opportunity (for Apple) lost, IMHO.

Perhaps, one day the people on the outside will start to compile their own distribution with their own changes. Then, the decoupling of Darwin and OS X will be complete.


Just some thougts,
Markus

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Jordan K. Hubbard
Engineering Manager, BSD technology group
Apple Computer
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