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Re: How much are we to report about bugs in Java 1.4.1 pre-release?

Sorry Allen, I mistakenly replied to only you...

....... original message :

I disagree with that position. As long as they do not talk about specific
bugs in the 1.4.1 pre-release, I think we have a right to talk about apple's
policy regarding Java.

J-S

----- Original Message -----
From: "Allen Denison" <email@hidden>
To: "Wayne Maddison" <email@hidden>
Cc: <email@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: How much are we to report about bugs in Java 1.4.1 pre-release?


> Please take this discussion off of java-dev and onto the
> Apple-sanctitoned list to discuss the Developer Preview.
>
> Thanks,
> Allen
>
> On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 12:07 PM, Wayne Maddison wrote:
>
> > In defense of Mickey Segal's frustration, there are so many serious
> > issues with my large AWT app (which behaves fine under other VM's) I
> > simply don't know where to start. I don't have time to diagnose and
> > dissect so many issues, so my plan is to wait for the next VM version
> > that presents me with less chaos. That is, I'll assume that Apple
> > already knows about many of these issues. Bad assumption maybe, but
> > it seems the most pragmatic assumption to make unless I'm told by
> > Apple that they think it's in pretty good shape. Or, should I submit
> > a single vague and multifarious bug report, listing many
> > poorly-diagnosed issues perhaps with screenshots?
> >
> > Of course, it's in Apple's best interest to say always "yes, please
> > send in a well-diagnosed bug report". But I have to prioritize
> > efforts, and without knowing more subtle information from Apple (e.g.,
> > "On this version, we expect AWT to have major glitches, so don't spend
> > a lot of time filing bugs on that yet"), which we are understandably
> > unlikely to get, prioritizing is hard to do.
> >
> > Reluctance to submit bug reports now does *not* imply we don't believe
> > in filing bug reports. It means we're saving our limited energy for
> > when it will be most useful.
> >
> > Wayne
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