Re: Quite a show!

Subject: Re: Quite a show!
From: Greg Guerin <email@hidden>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:55:14 -0700

TJB <email@hidden> wrote:

>The idea of Apple [...] to make [Java] hostage to the next generation OS
>does not agree with me or Java.

If it doesn't agree with you, why are you so ready to inflict it on your
prospective customers?

If you write code that requires 1.5, then you are holding your customers
hostage to having an acceptably bug-free 1.5 JRE on their machines.

Even if the download is free, they still have to download it and install
it. The download and install may not be cost-free. Or even achievable in
some cases (e.g. corporate machines where users are not allowed to have
unapproved software).

What features of 1.5 are so extraordinarily powerful that you feel you can
no longer write Java software without them?

Maybe I'm missing something, but I haven't seen anything in 1.5 (or is it
5.0 now?) for which I'd say "Yeah, that'll let me deliver working software
in half the overall time." If it isn't about significantly improving
quality, development time, or end-user features, what's the point? Yes, I
already know about how generics will save the planet, but if they're so
terrific, how has anyone been able to write working Java code without them
all this time?

Personally, I think most of the 1.5 additions are bullet-point features to
improve executive-summary comparisons with C#. Plus the usual raft of
"point-zero" new bugs that won't be fixed until 1.5.1 or 1.5.2.

-- GG
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