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Re: JRE in a subdirectory



A nightmare would be if the system's Java 5 bits are older or newer than those required by the application. The scenario with JRE files in a subdirectory solves this. Since these files are only copied but not installed they do not interfere with a possibly installed JRE. I can't see a problem with this approach.

tom

Shawn Erickson wrote:


On Jul 29, 2005, at 4:50 AM, Thomas Vatter wrote:

I won't support my application on more than one JRE. Java 5 is first class, it is faster and easier in programming. It is no problem to tell my customers operating system has to be at least 10.4. Still best way seems to be copying Java 5 in a subdirectory of the application. If it would work...


If you want to require the use of Java 5 for your application, you have to require a user to have Mac OS X 10.4 and they download and install Java 5 from Apple. You cannot distribute Apple's Java 5 bits with your application (you could try asking for permission but...). From the Software License Agreement...

"All components of the Apple Software are provided as part of a bundle and may not be separated from the bundle and distributed as standalone applications."

Also obviously some of your customers may already have Java 5 installed so what do you do with those? What if your Java 5 bits are older then the Java 5 they have installed? Do you force them to download Java 5 bits with your application again? Or do you present them with an option to not download those bits? If you do that why not just tell folks they need Java 5 and point them at Apple's site to download it.

The second you start trying to release Apple bits with your bits you are causing yourself a future compatibility nightmare as Apple releases updates. Also again you do not have the rights to distribute Apple bits with your product.

It simply isn't worth it, it isn't supported, it goes against the packaging model Apple has in place, etc. so I recommend you don't do it. Just point your customers at Apple's site to download it.

Why does apple not integrate it - if it is already existing.


It wasn't ready to ship at the same time Apple needed to start burning Mac OS X 10.4 DVDs so it wasn't included with the base installer. They released it as a download a month or so later when the Tiger DVDs started to be delivered. You should expect it to get integrated into base Mac OS X install for 10.5 or possible in a 10.4.x point release.

-Shawn




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