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Re: Heavy/Light-weightness of Mac vs. non-Mac components



  To continue confusing the issue, there is the SWT which could
constitute a third class of windowing.  SWT is implemented as , I
think, native components compiled for the OS, then wrapped with Java
using JNI.  I suppose this could constitute a third "weightedness" but
it is available not only for Mac, but for almost all Java platforms.
  It is also possible that what your colleagues mean is that Sun was
not responsible for writing the code for the Apple GUI stuff.  That
was all Apple's doing.  This is different from other Java platforms
like Windows or Solaris.
  Cocoa* is in there somewhere too, but I do not do any GUI
programming on the Mac so I don't have the slightest clue how it fits
into the Mac/Java integration.
  
*it is entirely possible that when I say Cocoa I really mean Carbon.  

Michael

On 6/30/05, Anthony Magee <email@hidden> wrote:
> On Jun 30, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Eric Christiansen wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > My company develops a cross platform C++/Java application, but they
> > have Mac specific code in places where it may not be needed.  The
> > justification for some of this is that Mac Java components are not
> > implemented the same as Java on other platforms.  This seems
> > believable since Apple has their own JVM.  But is it true?
> >
> > Two questions:
> >
> > 1) If an AWT component is heavyweight on Win XP, is it on the Mac
> > also?
> 
>          I'm sure others will give a more concise answer for you, but
> I'll give it a shot.
>          Java defined the AWT when it was very early in age, so the
> java code eventually calls some native code to draw its windows and
> so on. This is controlled by the JVM. Heavyweights, while not exactly
> the same on every system, do show the same characteristics of being
> drawn by native code and not interacting well with pure java --
> lightweight-- components.
> >
> > 2) Is there a third in-between weight-ness on Mac?  This is what my
> > cohorts say that prompted this e-mail.  If true, what does this mean?
>          I know of no third class of windowing components. But to
> comment on your pre-question ideas, pure java windowing components,
> i.e. Swing, are designed to behave the same on all operating systems.
> What they lack is a unified look-and-feel, and this is largely, if
> not entirely, up to the programmer with that caveat that some LAFs
> are copyrighted.
> 
>          I hope this informs you.
> >
> > Thought I'd ask the experts.
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> > Eric
> 
> 
> Anthony Magee
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