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Re: Multiple G5 processing machines and Java



On Jul 16, 2006, at 11:29 , Duane & Julie wrote:

On Jul 16, 2006, at 2:28 AM, bsd5tu1 wrote:

1. We're working on a Java project that makes extensive use of threads, thread control, etc. We're using OS X, several Linux versions, and numerous Windows variants for development and testing. Everything looks good so far, but we haven't, at least to the best of my knowledge, tested the product against machines using 2 (or more) processors...probably because they cost so much. We also have tested our products against machines with varying CPU speeds (for OS X, 400M PPC up to the latest, FWIW, but it's all single processor, unless you want to call the dual core Intels "dual processor"...and I really don't know if that comparison is fair). The question is quite simple: Could running the program on a dual (or quad) machine expose problems that weren't transparent under a single processing machine, or does the JVM see these mutliple processors as a single entity and control the threads accordingly? THE MORE I THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE, THE MORE IT FRIGHTENS ME!!!

Don't be frightened. The OS takes care of the dual processor, and the JVM doesn't act any differently on single or dual processor machines. I run Java on dual processor G5s every day, and I also run Java on dual processor G5 cluster nodes in parallel. I also run the exact code on a Windoze laptop. No problems.

It may be true that the JVM does not behave differently, depending on what you mean by "behave differently", but running on a multiprocessor machine can expose thread bugs which you might not see on a single processor machine. (But note, as Shawn Erickson said, a dual core machine is a multi-cpu machine.) The reason is because, contrary to very early versions of Java (1.0? maybe 1.1? I don't remember), the more recent JVM's pass off creation and scheduling of threads to the underlying OS. Remember 'green threads'? It's even possible, and in fact quite common, to see different thread behavior on different OS'es (Windows vs. Linux vs. Sun vs. OS X) even when keeping the number of processors the same. Or even on different versions of the same OS on the same hardware.


Rob

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