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Re: Multiple G5 processing machines and Java



1. If you are using a "Dual Core" that's fair. Of course, from experience you can see different issues when you genuinely have more than one processor, it's reasonable to test on such platforms, but not unreasonable not to test on every platform. If you have your threading right, it will work on any architecture (performance aside)

2. Well you know Java 1.6 will be PPC, how much more do you need to know? 1.7? That's 18-24 months away. Personally I wouldn't let it both me. As for more general longevity, we still have several PPC machines, they are still doing a job, and they still will be in 3 years time when we would have depreciated them to 0 anyway.

Nigel



On 16 Jul 2006, at 10:28, bsd5tu1 wrote:

Hello All:

I was in a local computer store and came across an Apple certifed refurbished 2.0 GHz dual processor G5 machine for $800. I was almost tempted to buy it. Some issues occured to me that perhaps the rest of you can help me resolve. Here they are:

1. We're working on a Java project that makes extensive use of threads, thread control, etc. We're using OS X, several Linux versions, and numerous Windows variants for development and testing. Everything looks good so far, but we haven't, at least to the best of my knowledge, tested the product against machines using 2 (or more) processors...probably because they cost so much. We also have tested our products against machines with varying CPU speeds (for OS X, 400M PPC up to the latest, FWIW, but it's all single processor, unless you want to call the dual core Intels "dual processor"...and I really don't know if that comparison is fair). The question is quite simple: Could running the program on a dual (or quad) machine expose problems that weren't transparent under a single processing machine, or does the JVM see these mutliple processors as a single entity and control the threads accordingly? THE MORE I THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE, THE MORE IT FRIGHTENS ME!!!

2. With Apple making the move to Intel, how long will Java for PPC machines, dual or single processor, even be supported? Since Java SEEMS to be tied to OS releases, is there a detailed map of what will and won't be supported in the future as well as a timeline? I've heard that Apple's transition from 68000 based machines to PPC machines wasn't exactly "friendly"....meaning that if you used an old 68000 based machine within a year or two you were pretty much stuck with old releases and updates, with your only option being to get a new machine. This, of course, begs the question, is buying a PPC machine, regardless of it's price, dual processor or not, even worth doing?

3. I have to assume that PPC dual processor machines will be replaced by Intel based equivalents. Is there a timeline for this anywhere?

Thanks in advance to all that answer.

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