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Re: Referencing home dir from Info.plist




On May 31, 2006, at 8:00 PM, Michael Hall wrote:

A little more to the point which I was less clear on is if the same cost extends to a subsequent runtime launched java process? Or is there some savings in having a java vm already going starting a new java child process? Something like...

....
			Process proc = Runtime.getRuntime().exec(args);

....
For launching 100 jvms there is some time taken. For launching one bootstrap child process it would undoubtedly be less. The odds of my ending up with a bootstrap process + 99 java plugins is somewhat small. Would the ones I have launch as quickly as what this test shows? No. So you are also correct this test isn't really representative. Real or at least interesting fake java processes would have real or at least interesting fake things for more realistic measurements.

You're asking good questions. FWIW, I had Eclipse open in the background during the Java launch test so whatever portion of the JVM is shared should have been continuously available. Runtime.exec spawns a new OS-level process using the same system calls that are used when launching a process from bash (e.g. fork and execv or something similar). However, your intuition is on the right track. You can use an existing JVM to launch another one and avoid some of the startup time, though I forget exactly how to do it. If you're interested, I'll dig up some examples.
The main ramification of the kind of benchmark provided is that the Unix-style stringing of simple, utility programs can be much less efficient in Java. Of course, if you put all of the needed functionality into a single Java application, the performance will be far better. This is the technique of the (c language) busybox project: http://www.busybox.net/
Cheers,
Dominic


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