Alexei -
We aren't screaming "I want it now" (at least I'm not). I'm saying
"tell us what's going on".
And not speaking about unreleased products is one thing when it's a
new iThing that has been secretly developed in the underground volcano
laboratories of Apple. In that case you don't talk about it because
you want to be able to make changes to it, you might abandon the idea
completely, you don't want to pre-empt the marketing etc. etc. It's
quite another thing when you're talking about something like Java 6 -
everyone already knows what it's supposed to be like, it's not even
really a new product - everyone has seen it before on Windows and
Linux for over a year, Apple even had the beta on their developer site
for everyone to download for quite a long time (before it disappeared
without trace). There is nothing here to keep secret, except the
mystery of the disappearance itself. Java 6 is not a secret product -
it's been talked about in the past by Apple - why can they suddenly
not talk about it now ? How could reassuring people that it's still in
development be detrimental to Apple in any way ? Don't you think that
someone, somewhere might think that even a quiet word of explanation
might be a good idea ?
There are teams of people now working on building their own
distributions of Java 6 for OSX - if Apple are still working on their
own version then don't you think they should mention it, for the sake
of avoiding any potential fragmentation of the platform if not for the
simple decency of sparing everyone from wasting all that work.
Josh
On 17 Dec 2007, at 18:11, Alexei Svitkine wrote:
It would only benefit Apple to do this anyways, since they would no
longer have to maintain the JDK, and all the Apple Java Development
community will be the better for it. It would be win-win for
everyone.
And the existing Apple Java team should just be fired? Doesn't seem
like a "benefit for everyone".
I am confident that Apple is still working on Java 6, and the reason
it's not out, is because it's not ready. A million people screaming
"we want it now" won't magically fix the bugs and other issues that
are holding it back. I see no reason that Java 6 would have been
canceled, given that they've already had a working prototype of it
in the developer preview.
And I bet even the managers of the Java team can't authorize the
disclosure of the status of Java 6, since the "don't speak about
unreleased products unless you're Steve Jobs" policy is most likely
outside of their control.
-Alexei Svitkine
Fizzysoft
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