Re: Does java run on these new phones (ducking)

On 1/10/07, Ian Stoba <email@hidden> wrote:

There's no petition that I know of. ADC members can file a radar report at http://bugreport.apple.com. My request is bug ID 4918255.

From: Jeroen Lapre' [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:07 PM
To: Ian Stoba
Cc: Peter Wayner; Java Developers
Subject: Re: Does java run on these new phones (ducking)

If Apple will listen to developers re: java on the iPhone, where do we sign a petition?
I want to develop java/jxta location-aware agent apps for the iPhone!

cheers
-jeroen
www.distant-galaxy.com

On 1/10/07, Ian Stoba <email@hidden> wrote:

Bringing this thread back to its beginning....

I just got back from Macworld Expo where I had a chance to speak
briefly to one of the iPhone "experts" on the show floor. I assume
this means that he is a member of the iPhone product team. He told me
that no decision has yet been made on whether or not to include Java
on the phone and, if so, to use J2SE or J2ME. He also said that the
phone does use Cocoa but that it is "not an open system".

I asked specifically if individual developers could write
applications for the iPhone and the answer was not yet, but that
Apple would listen to input from developers when deciding how or if
third-party applications could run on the phone. He agreed with me
that filing a Radar request would be the best way to for developers
to let Apple know about their interest in writing third party apps
for the iPhone.

He also confirmed that although the home screen of the iPhone looks
like Dashboard and the applications are called Widgets, it does not
use the same technology and standard Widgets will not run.

Beyond that, my only other impression is that it looks like an
absolutely beautiful device!

--Ian

On Jan 10, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Peter Wayner wrote:

> Indeed, I have a Palm TX and it's quite nice. It's got WiFi and
> Bluetooth.
>
> It does practically everything as the Apple iPhone, except, well,
> the phone part.
>
>
>
> -Peter
>
> On Jan 10, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Stephen Winnall wrote:
>
>>
>> If I were Palm, I'd now have a plan to redo the Treo without a
>> keyboard (I could never understand why they added keyboards in the
>> first place when they started making phones): it should be
>> possible for them to have something up and running very quickly.
>> They've got Bluetooth and Wi-Fi already. And they've got an open
>> architecture which just needs a decent UI. The styling of the case
>> wouldn't be difficult. And they have Java and other stuff too. I
>> think this is the sort of place the threats to iPhone will be
>> coming from. Apple will want to make it as difficult for the
>> competition as possible.
>
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