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Re: How to get Java 1.6

I think you guys are being apologists for Apple here.  Java 6 has been available for over a year on every major platform.  If you consider HPUX or even IBM's Java to be major platforms you're living in some bizzaro land.  The product that my company sells (enterprise server software that costs 7 digit$) runs on Windows, Linux, Solaris, and Mac.  It is only the Mac that is stuck back on Java 5.

The pace at which Apple turns out innovation leaves absolutely no room to say "it must not be available because Apple's not happy with it's quality."  Apple's "preview release" has been available for a year.  It is clearly not available because it is not a priority for Apple.  And hey, Apple is free to set their priorities however they want.  My stock certainly isn't objecting.  But make no mistake, they are screwing over Java developers in a big way.  And from a Java developer's perspective there is no excuse for that.  So stop apologizing and stop telling developers in so many polite words to effectively shut up.  It is perfectly correct for Java developer's to be 1) upset, and 2) vocal.  Plug your ears, and take off the cheerleader outfits, their ire is directed at Apple.

Brett

On 10/26/07, Bug <email@hidden> wrote:

On 26 Oct 2007, at 19:52, Shawn Erickson wrote:

> On 10/26/07, James Rome <email@hidden> wrote:
>> Java 1.6 has completely disappeared from the ADC site, and the Tiger
>> version now seg faults. My apps depend on 1.6. This is a real
>> disaster.
>
> Bad choice to depend on Java 1.6 without knowning that all of your
> target platforms have access to it but that is likely water under the
> bridge at this point...
>
>> Why didn't Apple release 1.6 with Leopard?
>
> Most likely because it isn't stable enought for Apple's quality goals.
>
>> Does this mean that I cannot develop any Java app in 1.6 and expect
>> it
>> to work on a Mac?
>
> ...and on other platforms that don't yet have Java 1.6 available (IBM
> comes to mind).

And don't talk to me about HP-UX. Eurgh.

Key point is here, we are not considering deploying our Java apps on
1.6 until the middle of next year on ANY platform. It astounds me that
people build there lives on untested technology. Apple is being slow
and not communicating, and that's a real shame, they should at least
tell us what their plans are. That said, it's not causing me to sweat
yet.
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 >How to get Java 1.6 (From: James Rome <email@hidden>)
 >Re: How to get Java 1.6 (From: "Shawn Erickson" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: How to get Java 1.6 (From: Bug <email@hidden>)



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