On 10/26/07, James Rome <email@hidden> wrote:
> Easy to say Scott, but I have no contacts at Apple to express this to.
It will take some work, sad to say. It is very hard to reach a
decision maker at Apple.
> Send me some names and phone numbers and I will do this. So as a member
> of the poor unwashed, this is my ONLY channel.
I believe Matt Drance is the current Java evangelist.
To find your regional sales rep, try working through a local Apple
store's business sales group. They should be able to get you to their
regional manager. (That presumes you have put together a business
case of some kind.)
If you have a university or science contact, they have contacts. Ask
who their rep is, and work up. I went that route when I found their
biotech science contact who hooked me up with a couple of xserves two
years ago. (I found a conference where Apple was presenting, and
looked at the names on the slides.) Good people.
For investor relations - only appropriate if you have stock in the
company - check their web site.
> And yes, I have put things into the bit-bucket of the Apple suggestion box.
I have too. I am not sure who reads those, but I still retain hope
that someone does. I have little proof of that.
> And Leopard has frozen up for the third time today thus far.
:-(
> Scott Ellsworth wrote:
> > On 10/26/07, Story Henry <email@hidden> wrote:
> >
> >> On 26 Oct 2007, at 21:17, Brett Wooldridge wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is perfectly correct for Java developer's to be 1) upset, and 2)
> >>> vocal. Plug your ears, and take off the cheerleader outfits, their
> >>> ire is directed at Apple.
> >>>
> >> well said!
> >>
> >
> > Great message, but said to the wrong people and in the wrong place.
> >
> > If you want to influence apple, you do so through, typically, the
> > regional sales channels, developer relations, investor relations,
> > notes to the team manager, and comments to the java evangelist.
> > Express a business cas to the first, and developer impact to the
> > second, and see what happens. Find out which companies presented on
> > Java at WWDC, and ask if they have a good channel to Apple.
> >
> > This is a _development_ list, not a manager and VP list. I am sure
> > Scott K has gotten an earful, and boy does he wish that he had four
> > times the team mates and budget. So? He is an engineer, not the one
> > that makes the decisions.
> >
> > Try to get your message to people who can do something about it. Do
> > you really believe that the team manager is satisfied with his budget,
> > his team size, and his quarterly objectives? No manager I know at any
> > company is satisfied, because they could do more if they had more
> > resources. The manager is probably doing all that can be done, so the
> > influence has to be had at a higher level, and from outside.
> >
> > I want Java 6 - I would like to use my MBP as my primary development
> > environment at Google, but I do want to bring up IDEA in Java 6 to do
> > so. (Lawyerman popup: I am not stating whether Java 6 is part of our
> > main code corpus, an experimental corpus, or a personal experiment.
> > No statement about our technology is implied.)
> >
> > I saw what was said at WWDC, but that is still under NDA. Reiterating
> > the message from six months ago might be wise on Apple's part. Either
> > way, the flurry of posts will cease.
> >
> > Silence is how they acted when Tiger shipped, and it was annoying
> > then, but it is not new.
> >
> > Scott
> >
>
>
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