So, now we've digressed to language comparisons... LISP still has my vote. There IS NO cleaner syntax (there's only parentheses). It's nearly equivalent to the Lambda Calculus, so it has a significant theoretical advantage (nearly that of Prolog).
But then, that's not really the purpose of this list. Is it?
Ray Kolbe
-----Original Message-----
From: java-dev-bounces+rkolbe=email@hidden on behalf of Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
Sent: Fri 10/26/2007 3:11 PM
To: Java Developers' List
Subject: [OT] Ruby & Java (was: Java on Leopard report)
On Oct 26, 2007, at 2:27 PM, robert engels wrote:
> Ruby blows, and anyone suggesting that Ruby and Java are equals (in
> terms of developing enterprise/robust applications) is an idiot -
> and their opinions should be considered suspect.
Now now, it's totally understandable to be frustrated at Apple over
their miserable handling of Java, but lets not take it out on poor
Ruby. What has Ruby ever done to you? ;)
>
> Ruby is a glorified scripting language, great for prototypes and
> hacking together completely custom "simple" applications.
Well, not a problem, since Ruby enables programmers to develop at a
higher level of abstraction with clean syntax, Ruby applications can
remain simple to develop while delivering a high level of
functionality to the end user.
> Any real complex applications need the structure that Java enforces
> (mostly).
Or are we just seeing the symptom that anything over a trivial
demonstration application in Java invariably becomes complex, because
of Java's pathological wordiness and awkward syntax? :)
-wilhelm
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