With any other company this would be a rational concern. But Apple
is a company that values secrecy above absolutely everything else,
including profit, reputation and goodwill.
The most likely outcome of events is a Leopard release with Java 6
released on Leopard a week to two later. Probably, it will be like
1.5 on Tiger and ship as an optional non-default download in the
beginning. I'm just speculating, but one does tend to read the tea-
leaves with some degree of accuracy after a while.
And it's not just restricted to Java. I know a photographer who
has just switched from Apple's Aperture to Adobe Lightroom because
he has no idea when the 40D will be supported. The tea-leaves
tell me it will be this week with 10.4.11 and in Leopard but some
people need more than that.
In the meantime there's nothing to do but speculate.
On 17 Oct 2007, at 13:20, Tim Goeke wrote:
First thing, let me say I enjoy reading the list.
I write Java code because I can get a GUI that runs reasonably
well on Mac, Windows, Linux (Gnome and KDE), sometimes Solaris,
sometimes HP-UX.
I also have a lot of systems code that glues things together. If
Apple is not going to support Java going forward, what are the
alternatives for writing cross platform UI that has a reasonable
chance of working on at least Mac/Win/Lin?
There's ruby stuff around, but I would want to stay in the JVM,
and I don't know if JRuby can call the ruby / cocoa interfaces.
As a passing note I am not under NDA but have found from two
sources that there is no new Java in the current Leopard build.
It would be a shame to see all the Mac Pros at Java One all
running Vista or some Linux.
Last year there was at least one session at Java One in which you
could look around and see rows and rows of Macs. And, in case
anyone cares, Java One is still a big deal with 25,000 people in
attendance. That's 5 X larger than WWDC. The point being that
there are more Macs at Java One than at WWDC. Many Sun folks
carry Macs - it's just baffling that Apple is not embracing the
JVM and the cool new things happening on the Java platform.
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