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Re: Im starting to despise java programming for the mac (original poster)



 
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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:18 AM
Subject: RE: Im starting to despise java programming for the mac (original poster)

So... In other words, I should just commit application suicide now, and avoid potential customers purchasing my application and being extremely upset that they cannot use it?!  I suppose I can develop using jni and learn the new code-base... but I dont have a 64-bit mac, and Im in extreme start-up mode without enough cash for the investment (for now). Any advice for me moving forward, other than purchase a brand spankin new mac and spend a month learning, and converting my app to work with these new libraries and JNI?  I think the best idea would be to simply abandon using mac libraries altogether and spend the month making pure java code that can make an avi.

Im amazed that by choosing to use java so that I could port my app most easily to the mac and the pc, AND choosing to use Quicktime libraries - libraries that come directly from Apple, I have indeed screwed myself for 64 bit processor macs.

Thanks Apple!
Hi Adam... I just caught the backend of this thread... and I know the feeling...
In all fairness I think you right to be pissed off an Apple, and it seems the problem is that QT itself is being shelved... ie the java guys have got nothing to move up with. Steve Jobs why are you breaking your own code... ding bat!
But in all fairness... as for using Java proper... I think you in for a big surprize... multimedia is just not a thing in Java... its a big hole in Suns portfolio... so
Sun... you ding bats... see what you made Apple do ;) ha ha
ie if you took you Apple Java and moved out to the rest of the Java world, on multimedia... eeeeeeesh a big problem.
 
I dont know if Apple QT can port out with its java libs to the other Java world out there...
 
But just something about JNI that one should realize... in the Apple world Java is Apple so its the machine... an so if the machine is 64 bit so is the Java and so is the native lib... but in the other Java world... the bits are what ever the JRE is... NOT what the machine is... so 32 bit JRE on 64 bit machine... is not a 64 JNI
 
Now if Apple can let a 32 bit JRE run on another machine.... your problems are solves, because thats how much of the other Java world still uses it.
The reason coders are still sticking to 32 bit is because other things break on 64 bit, like webstart wont do its thing yet...
 
So... there you have it... your problem is actually huge... only Obama can help you now ;)
 
What we do is deliver different multimedia apps based on the platform from a server.... so we detect XP 64 bit and send a dotNet media player... etc
Not easy...
The other trick we use is that we launch the multimedia through the browser... and then whatever that browser can so.. we can do.
 
Have fun but its not all apples fault... even though steve wonder is an idiot... its because sun got stuck on dev as well because these protocols the MS and boys use are mostly licensed... so if they give us video for nothing... they pay millions to some patent... its a problem
Sorry for you...
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 >Re: Im starting to despise java programming for the mac (From: "Kustaa Nyholm" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Im starting to despise java programming for the mac (From: "Mikael Hakman" <email@hidden>)
 >RE: Im starting to despise java programming for the mac (From: "Eric Kolotyluk" <email@hidden>)
 >RE: Im starting to despise java programming for the mac (original poster) (From: Adam Ornstein <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Im starting to despise java programming for the mac (original poster) (From: Mike Swingler <email@hidden>)
 >RE: Im starting to despise java programming for the mac (original poster) (From: Adam Ornstein <email@hidden>)



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