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Re: Problems 'su'ing into the root user



On Aug 22, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:

A "stripped down environment to lower the risk ..." when talking about
running a root shell? You're kidding me, right?

you're missing the point. it's not what happens _after_ the shell is invoked that's important, it's the process that the 'sudo' tool uses _before_ dumping you to a shell that matters. sudo basically does common-sense checking to make sure, as best it can, that the bash being invoked isn't linked to any improperly configured and/or malicious libraries, makes sure that the bash instance isn't passed any malicious environment vars (such as PATH=".") that could lead to eventual compromise of the system.


'sudo su' doesn't give a password prompt because root is _never_ asked for a password when it executes su. 'sudo su' basically says 'execute su as root', but then uses 'su' (which is insecure) to generate to process that could be harmful.

think about it like this.

let's say that, for whatever reason, someone's managed to place a malicious 'bash' in your current directory.

sudo -s -> authenticates, strips . from your PATH, and executes /bin/ bash
sudo su -> authenticates, strips . from your PATH, executes su, which has an opportunity to place . back in your PATH, and possibly executes the malicious bash.


clear?
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 >Problems 'su'ing into the root user (From: Nate Rudd <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Problems 'su'ing into the root user (From: Simon Slavin <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Problems 'su'ing into the root user (From: Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Problems 'su'ing into the root user (From: "Josh Wisenbaker" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Problems 'su'ing into the root user (From: Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Problems 'su'ing into the root user (From: JC Derr <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Problems 'su'ing into the root user (From: Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers <email@hidden>)



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