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Re: Network Test Equipment




On Jan 27, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Dan Shoop wrote:

At 6:21 PM -0800 1/27/06, Jon Wynacht wrote:
Hi,

Kind of off topic but not really...

I'm looking for recommendations for network testing equipment.

Well the first thing to do is to define the physical network types you're referring to. I have a boatload of Thickwire and AUI stuff that helps me squat these days with my Ethernets.


But the answer here is the buy the tester you're already most familiar with using. There in lies the rub and catch-22.

I have to install an Xserve and a bunch of macs and networking equipment for a customer. They're moving to a new building and the previous tenant left their equipment rack and all their wiring in place and nicely set up.

Don't trust it.

However, not everything is labeled so I'm looking for the best device(s) to:

1. Test whether the Cat 5 is good.

Consider it bad.

2. Test to see if both ends of the Cat 5 are good, so I can determine which port in an office maps back to which port on the patch panel.

You need much more than this to verify the stuff. You'd need a TDR, impedance testers, and to run these sorts of tests you generally first have to know which cable is which.


Your fist task is to label the cables. You could do this simply by plugging all the cables coming into the rack into a bunch of switches and stepwise going to each end of the wiring and plugging in an Ethernet Loopback connector. This will light up the port on the switch (provided its good). If you don't have a loopback connector make one. If you can't make one use a Powerbook or notebook with a a known good NI. You'll still however want a loopback connector for further tests.

Then you need to verify each cable. For this you need a good cable tester. Some of these may also come with doggles so that you can plug the doggle into the far end and given the way it shorts out the pairs can identify with doggle (and therefore which cable) you've attached. Better cable testers will also allow you to print the results of the test runs and the graphs necessary for evaluating the characteristics of the cable, most important of which on "passed" cables is noise.

None of this is a pleasant task and is very time consuming.

The cost of all the time and equipment to do so is probably around the same as new cable runs, and with the latter you've better assurances.


However if you're asking for recommendations then this means you've not done this before, otherwise you'd already know models you've used before and probably select one of those. Unfortunately this isn't one of those cases of where learning on the job pays off well as misreading or not knowing what tests to run and what the results indicate is far worse than just presuming everything all works.


If you don't want to just rip it all out and sell it for scrap, by far the more prudent call, then consider calling in a network consultant group to test all this for you. It's probably going to cost less that buying the equipment yourself and all your time, plus once they certify it they're going to have to stand behind their work. You may even want them to then maintain it for you.


There is a good article on Fluke's web site that explains the differences and similarity among certification, qualification and verification type testers.


http://www.flukenetworks.com/us/Solutions/Copper+Test+Solutions/ Overview.htm

We use a Fluke verification tester that tests wiring mapping, identifies ports, checks cable impedance, and has a TDR (Time Domain Reflectometer) for determining cable lengths and location of shorts or open connections in cables (if they exist). I wouldn't "leave home without it". Your choice of tester depends on your budget and exactly what you're trying to determine. If you just need a one time testing and certification of existing cables, I agree with Dan about hiring a network consulting company to do the job. If some one on your organization is going to be modifying existing networking and/or adding new cabling the Fluke verification meter will save a lot of time and frustration.

Just my 2 cents,

Phil

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