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Re: Panther Server woes




On Oct 8, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Future Media (Luke Siemaszko) wrote:

continually have stability problems with my Panther server. It seemed fine when new 2-3 years ago, but has gradually degraded. Earlier this year I thought it was my fault, for testing software on the server. So I completely rebuilt the server from scratch, original install discs, all the software updates applied before it was ever connected to anything. And now I never test anything on the server. It seemed Ok for a time, but now it's getting worse. We are only a small office, not doing anything very challenging, and it really shouldn't be this difficult.

While I have a software background, administering a server is outside my area of expertise and I have had to learn a lot to get this set up, I would love to outsource this, but in my neck of the woods there doesn't seem to be anyone offering the relevant skills. So I am going to have to sort it out it myself. So I could do with some help please!

What I have:
  G4/733 quicksilver
  10.3.9 server
  1.5GB RAM (max for a quicksilver)
  Hitachi Deskstar 128GB IDE disc for system and archiving
  Atto UL4S SCSI card
  Maxtor Atlas 10K 70GB disc for user data
  Sony AIT2 firewire drive for backup

The system disc only uses 4GB out of a 40GB partition, and the user disk is 50% free, so there is no disc space issue


What I do with it:

client authentication
network home directories
mail server
file serving
firewall
web serving - but there is currently no load on this - it is almost never accessed
Runs the following server apps
filemaker 8
moneyworks
group organizer
Plus retrospect 6



Typically there will be 4 users logged in, using the above apps. Never more than 6 users. So just that plus basic file serving.
Share points are 1 for user home dirs, plus 2 for user data.



First problem. A couple of months after I set the server up it started getting terminally slow- within a couple of minutes of being restarted, it would be so slow that users could not log on. Using Activity Monitor I discovered that this was due to AFP. Sharing with NFS rather than AFP seemed to sure this particular problem.

Hmmm... On early 10.4 I could see this, but on 10.3 the AFP server is pretty good. What did the disk IO look like when this happened?




Now it behaves most of the time - but every few days, and increasingly often, it will slow to a crawl. Mail.app and Moneyworks take ages to get data from the server, and login process either becomes incredibly slow or times out. Rebooting the server seems to cure it - until it happens again in a few days.

Take a look at the processes when it is slow and see what is going on. What is consuming the CPU? What does the disk IO look like at the time?


Josh


-- Josh Wisenbaker, ACSA http://www.afp548.com Breaking my server to save yours.

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