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Re: virtualization




On Oct 9, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Dave Schroeder wrote:


On Oct 9, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Dan Shoop wrote:


On Oct 8, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Dave Schroeder wrote:
Perhaps someday Apple will work to allow Mac OS X Server virtualization on its own hardware...

Of course you realize that Mach already incorporates virtualization from the kernel, right?

...and we can effectively use that to run multiple instances of Mac OS X Server, a la traditional VMs, Solaris zones, or LPARs how?


It doesn't really matter what Mach is capable of if such functionality doesn't translate to a supported, high-level featureset in the product.


Hey, it's further along than the non-products that aren't being offered commercially ;)


The support for hosting OSen is already there and being used today in every copy of OS X you run. It's just that OS X only launches one OS on top of Mach. It *could* launch more instances.

As for translating into a commercial "product" that would probably violate the license agreement for Mach.

As for someone deciding to work on it and develop the technology into something useable, that's a mater for developers so interested. That's what FOSS is about. Or creative people at educational institutions that promote computer sciences. It's how we got Mach to begin with and VMs is something Mach's been doing for some time.

So the point really seems to be that there isn't enough of a demand for virtualized OS X. Why? Today's big IT discussions are about SOA. In part the reason VM has caught on so hotly as of late was to consolidate services on hardware, something *nix based systems do very well already. Windows on the other hand doesn't lend itself to running multiple services -- or even a single instance of any service -- on one box. It's what led blade computing too. Windows crashes more than anyone would like. The only other's using VM are those with multiple OSen they want to run b/c they have multiple applications that they need those OSen for. (e.g. running Solaris, Linux and Windows).

If people are looking to run multiple copies of OS X on a single box they might want to look closer at what they're asking for. There's probably reasons why not to in most cases.



-dhan

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