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Re: New ObjC style language development


On Aug 21, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Marcel Weiher wrote:

We are a small group of developers and scholars working to create a cousin of ObjC so to speak.

Is this the same group at Glamorgan responsible for GNU Modula-2?

Not exactly the same group, but Gaius Mulley, the driving force behind GM2 is participating in our project. We have a common interest to support Cocoa and GNUstep in a free OSS Modula-2 compiler that can easily be integrated with Xcode and ProjectCenter.

For curiousity, Objective-C programmers who have commented on our preliminary design so far fall into two groups: lazy fingered and tidy minded.

- the lazy fingered ones say "Ok, but then I will have to type more words and longer ones at that."

- the tidy minded ones say "Nice, this is much cleaner than Objective- C."

Interestingly, there seem to be a significant number of ex-Mac Pascal developers who say that they left the platform due to lack of a Pascal (like) choice for Cocoa and that they would return once there is a compiler that supports ObjM2.

From this perspective it seems rather surprising that nobody has undertaken such an effort before. There are ObjC bridges for very many languages. Leaving aside Fortran and Cobol, the Pascal family is the only group that isn't represented in the Cocoa portfolio. Considering that Apple used to be a Pascal shop and how popular Delphi is on the Windows platform, one might say that it is a serious mistake by Apple not to have nurtured any Cocoa option for any language of the Pascal family. Metrowerks had a paper on a language extension to Object Pascal to support the ObjC object model as far back as 1997, but this was never implemented.

Yet, we believe our approach is more promising mostly because it doesn't require a bridge since we use the same Smalltalk based notation Objective-C uses.

rgds
ObjM2


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