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Re: What Should I learn Before Cocoa?

On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 04:33 PM, John Thacher wrote:

I am very interested in innovating with the cocoa programming language..

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Cocoa is not a programming language. Cocoa is a set of two frameworks (AppKit and Foundation) of Objective-C classes that are used by many Mac OS X applications, tools, and system components. Objective-C is the name of the programming language used by the Cocoa frameworks.
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My only
problem is that I'm not so sure if i should step up to Cocoa quiet yet.. You see the
only programming language I know very well is REALBasic.. I was just wondering if i
should learn some C/C++ Objective C before Stepping up.

Welcome to the real world. <;*)

Definitely learn C before learning Objective-C. Objective-C is a superset of C, and even if you don't use the standard library much in any Objective-C programs you write, you still need to know how functions work, the difference between an "unsigned long long" and an "extern signed double", how pointers work, etc.

You don't necessarily need to know C++ to learn Objective-C. Learning about object-oriented design & development in general is much more important.

I am interested in buying
a book Called "Learning Cocoa with Objective C" (Recommended by ADC.) Could
you please tell me if you suggest me reading that to step up to cocoa or if i should go
somewhere else first.

I wasn't impressed with the first edition of this book; it gave a lot of examples but didn't really say why things worked the way they did. I haven't read any later editions.

If you're new, then Aaron Hillegass' book is probably best... Though I'd strongly recommend learning at least C first. The most important C reference is "The C Programming Language" by Brian W. Kernighan and Dennis M. Ritchie, but you might want to look for a book intended for learners as well...

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