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Re: Anyone Using CORE AVC Decoder




On Apr 27, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Jon Alper wrote:

Interoperability of decoders is remarkably unuseful for content producers building an integrated user experience. Not being able to rely on additional player functionality beyond linear playback and predictable user experience (can the user scrub? how much space is required in a layout for controls? can I arbitrate between different user experiences detecting the playback environment? Can I do even basic interactivity like clickable endframes and all the less obvious stuff you need to make that really useful etc.) makes the promise of 'reliably generic decode' limited.

This I completely agree with, and have pointed out many times on this list. "Standards" are especially useful in production, or in a closed environment where you can dictate player, server, and encoders, but like to have some choice in the matter - on the Web even with an open standard media format, there are far too many other variables for that format standard to be a significant factor. Take MP3 for example - it's highly standardized, yet embedding it into a Web page still requires either a) coding for specific players, or b) using lowest common denominator interfaces (simple EMBED tags, for iinstance) and hoping for the best. Or take SMIL... or MP4... or VRML... and so on. All are perfect examples of why having "standard" media formats is hardly the panacea some would expect.


But, then, every time I make this argument I'm accused of being an apologist for Apple, or Microsoft, or whichever player vendor it comes up in context of.

Standards are great - in the production pipeline, or on the backend, but on the client side I don't have any real hope of seeing anything but vendor-specific playback requirements for many years to come. This is why, for me, when talking about AVC on the Web, the only real choice is Quicktime. But it is great to have a broad choice of encoders on the backend to choose from.

This is also why I was so negative about Microsoft abandoning the WM Player for OSX and promoting a third-party component playing within Quicktime for WM support - my concerns in that realm are completely validated by the less than great experience many streaming operators, and users, are having with that combination. How likely is it that anything but the most basic playback will work across Windows Media and QT+Flip4Mac? Similarly, how likely is it that anything but the most simple AVC playback will work across Quicktime Player, CoreAVC +WMPlayer, or any other AVC-compatible player? And this has nothing to do with AVC not being a proper standard, as these standards do not define how plugins are scripted from host application, for instance.

Of course, this is exactly the opposite of what Harry was getting at...

-R

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