Hi Tony,
I've got several Macs here. After I read that you used a Mac running 9.1, I
tried it on two other Macs not running OS X (which is where I first
identified this):
1. iBook running 9.2. It never got further than "Loading Image". No
percentages displayed. I closed it after about 30 minutes.
2. G3 B&W running 8.6. It got passed "Loading Image... 80% Complete" and
actually made it's way to "96% Complete". That's where it stopped. I gave
it about an hour before closing it.
I do have a 1MB DSL Internet connection, so load times are fairly quick.
Not sure what is going on other than PTViewer could be inconsistent in
regards to large image files. Two other people on the QT List said it could
not handle large images. Maybe your iMac is running some version of the
Java VM that is able to handle this? I'm not a Java expert so I'm just
guessing.
The YHA images do work on my Mac OS X system in both PTViewer and QT
formats.
Could you (or anyone else on this list) tell me if you have successfully run
cubics in PTViewer on the different Windows operating systems
(95/98/NT/2000/XP)? I need to be sure I can successfully run cubics on
PTViewer and QT on all platforms. For my projects that need to run on
PTViewer and QT, the cubics will be fairly small in size; probably no larger
than 200K.
Thanks!!!
Regards,
Will
On 7/30/03 10:47 PM, "Tony Redhead" <email@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Will,
>
> No problems, it was something I had run into a while ago and managed to
> work out.
>
> Yes you are right A should end up showing a red field after it loads
> about 80%, that's funny about B and C I just tried it on my Imac running
> 9.1 and IE 5.0 for Mac and it worked fine, took a little while to load
> but!
>
> Do the other links for the YHA images work on your Mac? I would be
> curious to know.
>
> Thanks for the update re PTViewer cubeface param. I'll test it on some
> of my images.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Will Merrill [mailto:email@hidden]
>> Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2003 2:20 PM
>> To: email@hidden; email@hidden
>> Subject: Re: Cubics with PTViewer
>>
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Thank you for your reply and all the time you spent putting
>> this together. It is most appreciated!
>>
>> I went to the web page(s) you set up with the comparisons and
>> could not get A (original file) to work which I think I
>> should expect? However, I could not get B (imported,
>> converted and exported from CubicConverter) and C (saved as
>> self-contained movie from QTPro) to play on my system. I am
>> running Mac OS X 10.2.6 on a Dual 1GHz desktop with 1GB RAM.
>> I believe I have all the latest software releases from Apple
>> in regards to Java. I tried this with MS Internet Explorer
>> for Mac 5.2 and Safari 1.0. Both browsers stopped at
>> "Loading Image... 80% Complete". I let it stay that way for
>> at least five minutes each time before closing the window.
>> What is interesting is that I tried it on this same system
>> under Virtual PC/XP Pro with MS Windows Internet Explorer 6.0
>> - both B and C worked. Have you experienced anything like this?
>>
>> Regarding opening the movie in QTPro and saving as a
>> Self-Contained movie in order to make the order correct: In
>> case you are not aware of it, there is a PTViewer param that
>> might help:
>>
>> ======= PTViewer documentation (begin) =======
>> order - This parameter is used with QTVR- files. It
>> determines the order of the tiles (in the case of cylindrical
>> panoramas), cubic-face images (in the case of cubic
>> panoramas) or individual movie frames (in the case of object
>> movies). If this order is non-standard, e.g. because the
>> QTVR-file has been flattened, then this parameter should
>> contain a comma separated list of numbers indicating the
>> positions of the images. ======= PTViewer documentation (end) =======
>>
>> I tried this with my test (taking the 72K stitched image
>> sample posted on the Tutorial and putting it through
>> CubicConverter) and got it to work in the correct order with
>> the following values:
>>
>> <param name="order" value="0,1,5,2,3,4,6">
>>
>> Regards,
>> Will
>>
>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Reply-To: <email@hidden>
>>> From: <email@hidden>
>>> To: <email@hidden>
>>> Subject: Re: Cubics with PTViewer
>>> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:38:25 +1000
>>> Organization: Red Square
>>>
>>> Hi Will,
>>>
>>> I'm not really sure what the root cause of the problem is
>> but I think
>>> its tied in with which software program was used to do the stiching.
>>>
>>> We use a single .mov file in our web sites and deliver it to the
>>> viewer via QT or PTViewer by detecting if they have QT installed or
>>> not. I use Panoweaver 3 Pro on the PC to do my stiching and
>> I usually
>>> end up exporting the six faces for retouching. In order to have a
>>> single .mov file work in both QT and PTViewer I need to do the
>>> following:
>>>
>>> 1. Import the 6 faces in CubicConverter (Mac)
>>> 2. Convert to a movie
>>> 3. Export the movie
>>>
>>> Note: at this point the movie will work in QT and PTViewer; but in
>>> PTViewer the faces will be out of order!
>>>
>>> 4. Open the movie in QTPro and save as a Self-Contained movie.
>>>
>>> This movie will now play perfectly in both QT and PTViewer
>> (go figure)
>>>
>>> Hey! If anyone has a better way I would love to know.
>>>
>>> In regard to the movie you mentioned in your email I opened it into
>>> CubicConverter and followed steps 2,3 & 4 after opening the
>> movie in
>>> CubicConverter.
>>>
>>> I have put the results up online (its still using the 2.4mb
>> file so it
>>> takes a while to download)
>>>
>>> A. Original file - sheldoniansq.mov
>>> http://www.tonyredhead.com/vrml/original.htm
>>> B. Sheldoniansq.mov imported, converted and exported from
>>> CubicConverter
>>> - sheldoniansq_cc.mov http://www.tonyredhead.com/vrml/ccexport.htm
>>> C. Sheldoniansq_cc.mov opened,saved as (self-contained
>> movie) from QTPro
>>> - sheldoniansq_qtsave.mov
>> http://www.tonyredhead.com/vrml/qtsaveas.htm
>>>
>>> FYI, here's
>> an example of the way we deploy our single .mov file for
>>> YHA (Youth Hostels of Australia)
>>>
>>> 1. PTViewer version -
>>> http://www.yha.com.au/hostels/360_tour.cfm?hostelid=93&ptviewer=1
>>> 2. QT version -
>> http://www.yha.com.au/hostels/360_tour.cfm?> hostelid=93
>>>
>>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Tony
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