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Re: Disppointed about G5s

Thanks Hans for the heads up on the sleight of hand played by Steve at the latest keynote. You have to expect that though, and it just goes with the territory. It really is nothing new, but, just the same, Apple really does have the coolest computers in the world, and they do need to sell some at the current level of development so they can continue to innovate. When they get things in a groove and can clock the 64 bit chip a bit higher, and you can be sure that is not far down the road, these machines are going to eat up everything except the AMD 64 bit chips, but they will have a hard time finding boxes that are as elegantly designed as the G5 to put them in.

I don't think anyone can argue that the G5s are not the most elegantly designed desktop computers or not the computers whose technology has the most potential. To be the first with 64 bit architecture at an affordable price is very significant. To be able to address RAM in the terabytes, mathematically, and to have 8 gigs of RAM right now is pretty good.

I trust the guys from Wolfram Research, and they have put their stamp of approval on these machines as being the best available, or in the words of Steven Wolfram's partner in the keynote yesterday, Mathematica not only runs faster on the G5 than it does on any Intel desktop, it also runs faster than it does on any workstation computer. Or at least that is what he said in his presentation when he was demonstrating Mathematica 5, the new release, during Job's keynote.

I bought a G4 on Sunday, and on Monday Apple sent me an e-mail and knocked $375 off the price and upgraded the processor from 1.0 gig to 1.25 gig, upgraded the hard drive from 60 gig to 80 gig, and upgraded the video card from a NVidia GeForce 4MX to the Radeon 9000 Pro, all free in addition to dropping the price $375 from $1574 to $1299. So I was very happy that they announced the G5 on Monday! You can still find this good deal on the remaining G4s at the Apple web site. Benchmark speed tests done by MacWorld showed that the dual 1.25 G4 was really only about 25% faster than the single G4 with a 1.0 gig processor. So I suspect that a 1.25 single processor G4, which is a processor 25% faster than the 1.0 is going to run about 25% faster than the single G4 with a 1.0 processor.

Of course there are marketing gimmicks out there. Steve Jobs is no dummy and I am glad that he is keeping Apple afloat, because I love their machines. We have many more Windows boxes than Macs in my company, but when I sit down to do creative work, I use my Macs for everything except when I have to use an XP box for creating Director Movies which will run on cheap Windows boxes in our kiosks.

Paul Fretheim


Message: 14
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:37:40 -0400
From: Mat <email@hidden>
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: New G5's

I'm really desapointed.



I was really happy to know that the new Apple computer was really really fast.
But it's not.
In fact it's just a benchmark, and you can say what you want with a bench.
See: http://www.haxial.com/spls-soapbox/apple-powermac-G5/
I'm really agree with the point of view of this web page.
The second thing I don't understand is why there is no benchmark with Itanium or AMD64?

Just one thing: Stop believing what Apple say! Apple want to sell its computers that's all.

bye

Hans Nyberg wrote: 
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