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Re: Engineering Analysis Software



(I was certain I sent out a summary of answers to my original post, but I 
haven't seen it, so I'll risk repeating myself.)

I appreciate the responses to the original post. I hope there are some 
other Machead engineers on this list--I know a few others, and I'd hate 
to think we were the last.

>I'm not using finite element analysis myself, but there is a fink 
>(http://fink.sourceforge.net) package called  modulef 
I checked this out. Very interesting, although I note that it isn't 
compiled for the Mac as yet. Since I'm a practicing engineer I'm hoping I 
can find something that I don't need to do any development work on, but I 
confess the notion of somehow coming up with FEA software that's an 
actual killer app is very appealing. But it takes a lot of work. Doing a 
proper matrix assembly and inversion is only the beginning. I'd hoped 
someone had recompiled a large general purpose FEA program like NASTRAN 
or one of the SAPs for the G5 and would relate some of the pitfalls.

Source code is available for some smaller mechanical and thermal FEA 
programs: Check 
<http://www.engr.usask.ca/~macphed/finite/fe_resources/fe_resources.html> 
I have some listings for shareware FEA, which I collected some years ago 
as part of a project for MacSciTech. I've run some of the shareware using 
OS 8 and they're surprisingly good, although a little small for most 
design office purposes. PlastFEM is one such 
<http://home.t-online.de/home/froehling/PlastFEM/PlastFEMe.html> and 
there are some interesting 2D kinematics programs. If you need something 
of the sort, I'm sure they's run in Classis, and can probably be 
re-compiled for OS 10.

Besides COSMOS/M which is still being sold, although not supported, there 
are two other pretty good large scale packages available. MacNolian 
<http://www.softing.it/eng/homepage.html> and LapFEA. MacNolian is 
basically educational software, but it's pretty comprehensive. It doesn't 
accept text file input, which I consider a major disadvantage, but it's 
completely scriptable which may amount to the same thing.

 LapFEA <http://www.lapcad.com/sware_mfp.htm> began life as MSCpal, which 
was the first FEA program I ran on a Mac, back in 1987. I was able to get 
some pretty good mileage out of it. The original developer was 
MacNeal-Schwendler, who took over NASTRAN. LapFEA retains the NASTRAN 
connectivity, but it comes with a CAD-based modeller that looks pretty 
good. It runs on OS9 and Classic, but a straight OS 10 version is on the 
way.

I've also run a fairly simple Mac CFD program called Quick'n Simple. I 
get a couple of hits from a Google search on Quick'n Simple, 
<http://www.me.pdx.edu/~gerry/QnS/>. It only handles laminar flows, and 
may not be ready for NASA, but it's fairly slick

I've used COSMOS/M for 10 years. It's a general purpose FEA package with 
dynamics and non-linear capability. It's an ANSYS workalike and getting 
long in the tooth. SRAC hasn't done any development on it for years, but 
I still use it on a daily basis for slients who don't have their own FEA 
packages. And speaking of ANSYS, rumors exist that they're looking at 
doing a Mac port of ANSYS. If so I imagine it would be one of the UNIX 
work station versions, although putting a real Mac interface on it and 
getting rid of their wretched home-built 'GUI' would be something to see. 
For my money ANSYS is the best FEA software ever written.

>We have just been through an exercise at work to get a FEM/CFD package. 
>What happened highlights the problem in this area.
>The mechanical team are all PC based, because there is no high end CAD 
>system on the Mac (ProE, SolidWorks, AutoCad etc.).
I'll quibble with this. Just from the demo disk alone, I think Ashlar 
Vellum is as good a CAD package as exists today. Check it out at 
<http://www.ashlar.com/> I don't do very much 'board design' these days, 
but if I did, Vellum would be the one I'd pick. Working with a couple of 
the demos made it seem like it knew what I wanted before I did. I have a 
low end CAD program called Deneba CAD, which gives me connectivity to 
AutoCAD for simple FEA models, if I need it, but it's nothing like 
Vellum. I understand Vectorworks is a very good piece of work, but I 
don't know how well it's suited for mechanical CAD.

>Because of this there is no need to look at mac based FEM/CAD systems.
You might want to continue your search with the idea of finding FEA 
software or a mesher at least that can read an IGES or DXF file. 

FEA/CAD interactivity is vastly overrated. It used to be the holy grail 
of the CAD developers, but you don't hear so much about it these days. 
ANSYS and COSMOS/M do very well with IGES input, except for sloppy CAD 
usage, of which there's a great deal.

My own opinion is that designers who can use CAD effectively are very 
intuitive, non-linear thinkers; FEA requires a thoroughly anal, detail 
oriented user to get decent results, and it's very rare to find a good 
designer who is also a good FEA user for this reason. Also the 
requirements of a physical model for calculating stress or temperature 
are much different than the requirements of an 'architectural' model. For 
example a CAD of a piping system includes all the warning placards and 
valve handles and such are irrelevant to stress or thermal analysis. 
Moreover the structural parts may be 3D representations of support beams 
and the pipe itself. Although possible, it's stupid to use 3D hex or tet 
elements to figure hoop and bending stress in pipe.


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