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Re: Anyone able to use DSS behind a firewall?



Also, if Apache is working (and was working when it used port 80), then
QTSS using port 80 should work.  From a networking point of view, QTSS
using port 80 is nearly identical to Apache- it tunnels everything
through TCP port 80.

-Joel Hedden

On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 14:12, Joel Hedden wrote:
> Hi,
> Are you trying to use HTTP/port 80 streaming?  With your firewall
> config, that's the only type of streaming that should work.
> Also- I'm assuming that you did turn on port 80 streaming for QTSS, and
> that it was done after moving Apache to port 8080.  When testing from
> within the local network, are you sure you're using QT with HTTP/port 80
> transport?
> 
> To debug, try this from a remote host (outside the firewall):
>  telnet <IP address of your server> 80
> If it connects, hit Enter a couple of times.  If you get an RTSP
> response, then the network and server are configured fine.. Maybe the
> client is trying to use port 554 instead of 80.  If you get an HTTP
> response, the Apache is still listening on port 80 and QTSS couldn't
> bind to the port.  If you don't get a response, something is
> misconfigured. 
> You may also want to find a good sniffer to help you debug.  Sniffing
> the packets on the multiple interfaces of your gateway should show you
> exactly what the firewall is doing.  Also, by logging the packets as
> they're passed, you can see if the firewall is working correctly (as in
> "pass in log ... ").
> 
> There should not be any QTSS bug that is causing problems, and you
> should indeed be able to run a firewall on the local system or a remote
> gateway, as long as everything is properly configured.
> 
> If you wanted to use port 554 or 7070 for streaming, you'd need to pass
> in TCP packets for those ports, as well as UDP ports 6970-6999.
> 
> -Joel Hedden
> 
> On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 22:47, Jim Arnold wrote:
> > For the past few days I've been banging my head against the wall 
> > trying to get the Darwin Streaming server (4.1.1 from the FreeBSD 
> > ports system) to work behind an IPF firewall. The server works fine 
> > inside of the LAN.
> > 
> > I opened up these ports in my ipf.conf. I moved apache to 8080 so I 
> > could stream DSS via 80:
> > pass in quick on dc0 proto tcp from any to 192.168.0.2/32 port = 80 
> > flags S keep state keep frags
> > pass in quick on dc0 proto tcp from any to 192.168.0.2/32 port = 8080 
> > flags S keep state keep frags
> > 
> > In Ipnat I'm redirecting the traffic to the server:
> > rdr dc0 0.0.0.0/0 port 80 -> 192.168.0.2 port 80 tcp
> > rdr dc0 0.0.0.0/0 port 8080 -> 192.168.0.2 port 8080 tcp
> > 
> > Apache has no trouble working from the net on 8080.
> > 
> > I just don't think it's an issue with how my firewall is configured.
> > 
> > I found a poster on the DSS list who had the same kind of trouble. 
> > Here was his response to my query if he ever solved his problem:
> > 
> > "I'm convinced that this is a problem with DSS/QTSS's code.
> > 
> > They have kind of alluded to this in their posts when they say that DSS
> > doesn't really like this setup.  I've been dealing with this issue since
> > July.  I still don't have a solution.  I've tried everything.  It just makes
> > no sense that you can't put the server behind a firewall.
> > 
> > I tried everything--from open ports to using DNS tricks to you name it.  For
> > whatever reason, the server doesn't like having one address on the network
> > and having a different address on the Internet.
> > 
> > Like I said in the post, I've been doing this with lots of builds of
> > RealNetworks with no problems since 1998.  It's driven me crazy and I've all
> > but given up"
> > 
> > Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Anyone running DSS 
> > behind a firewall out
> > to the internet?
> > 
> > Jim
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References: 
 >Anyone able to use DSS behind a firewall? (From: Jim Arnold <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Anyone able to use DSS behind a firewall? (From: Joel Hedden <email@hidden>)



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