Thank you for the prime whining example!
Sorry you're so bitter about paying $1700 + travel b/c you're not a
student anymore...
;^)
We still love you anyway, Erik!
-Matt
This is a jest. This is only a jest. In the event of a true personal
attack, this message would be followed by many more - droning on-and-on
and making no legitimate points, serving only to antagonize the
recipient(s). This has been a service of the emergency reality check
network. Thank you.
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Erik J. Barzeski wrote:
> On 4/28/02 3:40pm, "Oglesby, David (MN65)"
> <email@hidden> wrote:
> > Can we please cease this discussion. It was a ridiculous notion to begin
> > with and has generated an alarming number of responses.
> >
> > David
>
>
> Uh, no.
>
> A few points:
> 1. Microsoft doesn't even have a developer program for students, or it just
> started. Previously their developer program was "bathe schools in free
> developer software" and it seemed to work at least a little.
>
> 2. The average college student spends $550/year on alcoholic beverages. And
> heck, common sense tells me that the average college student is only legally
> allowed to drink for 1 or 2 or at most 3 years of their 4- or 5-year college
> life, so... And yes, I realize we're not "average." But this goes to say:
> $100 ain't much. It's 1/3 of a PlayStation 2, 1/2 of a Gamecube, 4 DVDs, 3
> XTC pills, 25 cases of Coca-Cola (ouch!), etc.
>
> Whaddya get for $99? A _FREE_ copy of Mac OS X, a free t-shirt, a 20%
> (one-time) discount (I saved $800, and quick math tells me that $99 x 5 is
> less than $800, netting me a $300 profit on the whole shebang).
>
> I _hate_ the bitchy whiny people (hate may be too strong a word) who say
> things like "I think we should get a hardware discount every year" (Raetard)
> or "I think we should go to WWDC for free" or "I think student membership
> should be free" or whatever.
>
> There are free options available, and it's free to be on the mailing list.
> Deal with it.
>
> Personally, I paid $1695 for a select membership + WWDC this year. I'm glad
> to do it. I write it off on my taxes, I fly myself out to WWDC and pay for
> the hotel room. Should a "cheaper" alternative for students wishing to go to
> WWDC be available? Maybe... But then again maybe it's a helluva lot of work
> to administer, and if that's the case, I'd rather Apple spend the time
> making sure the scholarship winners and the ones who pay $1200 to go have a
> smooth ride through the week.
>
> So lighten up. Yeah, you wanted to go to WWDC. Yeah, a hundred bucks is
> sooooo much money. Release a stupid shareware app and charge $5 for it. It
> may take a year to make $100 but gee whiz, you probably could, and the time
> you spend writing your code will be better spent than a lot of other things
> you could do anyway. Especially if it's "$550 in alcohol."
>
> Anyway, this is a rant and should be considered as such. I now return to my
> normal somewhat more sedate existence... :P
>
> P.S. Be grateful there's a student developer program at all - especially one
> that does everything that it does - and put your efforts into getting your
> friends and schoolmates into it instead of whining about how it can be
> better. That's what emails to the appropriate people are for... Not public
> whining.
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