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The future of X11 on OS X



Hi folks,

Like a lot of you I was pretty unhappy about the state of X11 as shipped with Leopard. After reading Ben Byer's posts here and elsewhere, though, I'm pleased to say that I'm actually feeling optimistic about the future of X11 on OS X for the first time in ages! I'm very happy to hear that Apple's X11 is now based on X.org instead of XFree86, since that's definitely where the future lies. It also makes all the difference in the world to know that there's somebody at Apple who is interested in taking X11 in a more open direction. (It's never made sense to me that X11.app, based on an open-source project, was developed in such a closed fashion.)

I know there are problems with X11 today that need to be fixed, but I'd like to take a moment to speculate about where X11 on OS X should head in the future. Take a look at VMWare Fusion or Parallels. There you've got an entire foreign OS running in a VM, but foreign apps seem convincingly native in many ways. They can have separate dock icons, drag-n-drop works, they can be set to handle file types, and so on. There's no reason not to have this level of integration for X11 apps as well! There are well-accepted specifications in the X universe for many protocols that could make tight integration possible:

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications

So anyhow, I'll finish up by saying thanks once more to Ben. Your attitude and openness on this list and elsewhere has taken me from the pits of frustration to a state of true optimism. I'm happy to see those fixes rolling in (xorg-server 1.2a2 is already much better). Nice work!

Cheers,
-n8

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>>>-- Nathaniel Gray -- Caltech Computer Science ------>
>>>-- Mojave Project -- http://mojave.cs.caltech.edu -->


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