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Re: pasting into X11 applications from Aqua apps



Was out of town for a few days.  See inline.

Mark E. Perkins wrote:
> On 2007/08/10 14:57, Michael Reilly wrote:
>>
>> Mark E. Perkins wrote:
>>> If by "frontmost window" you really mean the window with focus, then
>>> OK.  But
>>> if one is using focus-follows-mouse, and the window with focus is not
>>> also
>>> frontmost, then pasting into the frontmost window violates POLA in a
>>> rather
>> I have no idea what POLA is 
> 
> POLA = Principle of Least Astonishment, sometimes POLS for Principle of Least
> Surprise.
> 
>> but the window with focus does not have to
>> be in front and often it is useful to paste into a window which is not
>> in front. 
> 
> This is precisely my point.  I maintain that the user will _typically_ want to
> paste into the window that has focus (which may be frontmost, but may not) and
> will be somewhat astonished if the paste occurs somewhere else.
I agree.  I work with a group of people who have been using X11 since X11R3.
Since we tend to use focus follows mouse the paste should go into the window
where the cursor is when the middle button is clicked but that window should not
be brought to the front unless the user has configured the window manager to do
so.  We are astonished when a window has to be brought to the front just to
paste into it on some systems.

michael
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References: 
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Vernon Williams <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Vincent Lefevre <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Rich Cook <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: "Mark E. Perkins" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Ben Eisenbraun <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: "Mark E. Perkins" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: "Adam D. I. Kramer" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Jonas Maebe <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: "Adam D. I. Kramer" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: "Mark E. Perkins" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Dave Williss <email@hidden>)
 >Re: pasting into X11 applications from Aqua apps (From: Ben Byer <email@hidden>)
 >Re: pasting into X11 applications from Aqua apps (From: "Mark E. Perkins" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: pasting into X11 applications from Aqua apps (From: Michael Reilly <email@hidden>)
 >Re: pasting into X11 applications from Aqua apps (From: "Mark E. Perkins" <email@hidden>)



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