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Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?



On Aug 11, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Adam D. I. Kramer wrote:
A good solution would be for X11 to check when the clipboard was
filled...and if X11 has been the front app since then, to not fill the X11
clipboard with the Aqua clipboard when switching from an Aqua app to X11.

... this I like. Basically, keep the most recent clipboard item.

Another solution would be to tie the X11 clipboard to the Aqua
clipboard...so the Aqua clipboard would be filled with X11 goodness on a
select in X11, instead of requiring the user to press command-C. I can see
the appeal of two clipboards (one within X11 and one within Aqua), but the
notion of storing the Aqua clipboard while still clicking and pasting around
in X11 does seem kind of inelegant...and the "select is copy when you're in
X11" rule is very likely intuitive for those who use X11 a fair amount; new
users of X11 who do so under Mac OSX would probably figure it out pretty
quickly anyway.

Ok, but you're not talking about the X11 clipboard, you're talking about the X11 PRIMARY selection, which is something completely different :(


I'm glad to see so much enthusiasm here -- it's clear that copy & paste issues are the #1 usability concern with X11.app.

It's also clear to me that
1) X11.app has some specific rules for copy and paste logic that are not always intuitive or even correct. When should data be transferred from one of the X11 buffers to the Aqua pasteboard? And vice versa?
2) X11.app does not always successfully transfer data between Aqua and X11, even when it tries to


#2 is something that we (Apple) will have to work on, but it seems like a good time to discuss #1. Anything we can do to create consensus will help me make sure this is implemented correctly.

Ben

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 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Vernon Williams <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Vincent Lefevre <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Rich Cook <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Vincent Lefevre <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Rich Cook <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Ben Byer <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: Bill Campbell <email@hidden>)
 >Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications? (From: "Adam D. I. Kramer" <email@hidden>)



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