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Re: Difference Between Xgrid Cluster and a Beowulf



On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 12:24:07AM -0500, David Buttrick scratched on the wall:
> OK. I buy your comparisons. And it had gone past me that Xgrid is a 
> grid, and not a cluster-in-the-Beowulf-sense. That's a really good 
> distinction.
> 
> There is one limitation though - Rendezvous. If you look at that, then 
> an Xgrid has more a traditional cluster network topology.
> All the nodes are connected on a single subnet.

  That's true, but you don't *have* to use Rendezvous.  You can
  manually configure systems that are not on your subnet.

  Also, see information from session 504 ("Rendezvous Update") at WWDC.

> its about guaranteeing that a result comes from who it says it 
> does - "formal membership" as you said below.

  I guess that phrase could be used for a lot of things.  As you said,
  one way to see that is a set of "known" machines, even if they are
  organized in a grid-like fashion.  It can be taken much further than
  that, however.  Cluster machines tend to be dedicated.  A machine
  that is part of a cluster does absolutely nothing else.  This is much
  less true of Xgrid machines (or grid machines in general).  Cluster
  machines all tend to be managed by the same person (or group) and are
  as "cookie cutter" as possible-- again, grid machines aren't.

  In many ways I think it is fair to say that a cluster is just a
  extremely organized and formalized grid-- or that a grid is a very
  disorganized cluster-- but I'm sure the computer science types will
  yell at me for such comments.  I think you get what I mean, however.

   -j

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                     Jay A. Kreibich | Integration & Software Eng.
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          <http://www.uiuc.edu/~jak> | University of Illinois at U/C
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References: 
 >xgrid and john the ripper (From: Eric Chapman <email@hidden>)
 >Re: xgrid and john the ripper (From: "Pierce T.Wetter III" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: xgrid and john the ripper (From: james woodyatt <email@hidden>)
 >Re: xgrid and john the ripper (From: "Pierce T.Wetter III" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: xgrid and john the ripper (From: james woodyatt <email@hidden>)
 >Re: xgrid and john the ripper (From: David Buttrick <email@hidden>)
 >Difference Between Xgrid Cluser and a Beowulf (From: Bob Kerstetter <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Difference Between Xgrid Cluser and a Beowulf (From: "Jay A. Kreibich" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Difference Between Xgrid Cluster and a Beowulf (From: David Buttrick <email@hidden>)



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