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On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:00 PM, email@hidden wrote:

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> I understand Apple's desire to keep new products as secret as possible until they are announced to the public, but sometimes that has a direct effect on the preparedness of third-pary developers.  A very good example of this was the release of the 64-bit capable Aperture.  While it was good for the user that you provided a "32-bit compatibility relaunch mode", it essentially left all of your third-party developers with a bit of egg on their face and scrambling to get the products back up to par.
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> I would really prefer (and appreciate) not having to experience that again.
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> So that leads me to my first few questions regarding Aperture and Lion:
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> 	1) Is Aperture currently sandboxed? (My inference from my testing to date is that it is not).
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> 	2) When will it become a sandboxed app?
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> 	3) It is my understanding that sandboxed apps must have their plug-ins converted into XPC services in order to run on Lion.  Will Aperture be providing some kind of automatic "wrapper" for exiting third-party plug-ins?  or are we going to have to perform the conversion?
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> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:42:07 +0100
> From: Fraser Speirs <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Preparing for sandboxing
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> Very good questions and I concur that it would be highly desirable to
> have some advance warning of the plans. I have established some
> answers to the technical side of how sandboxed applications can load
> plugins in this devforums thread:
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> https://devforums.apple.com/message/471293
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> My understanding is that it is _desirable_ but not _required_ that
> sandboxed apps quarantine their plugins via XPC.
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> There is a deadline set for apps in the Mac App Store to adopt
> sandboxing (it's referred to in the WWDC "Apple Platforms Kickoff"
> video, IIRC) and I assume Aperture will be sandboxed by that time.
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> The key question is whether Aperture's entitlements will be permissive
> enough to let us do what we need to do as plugin authors.
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> Fraser
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> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Clarence Locke
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>> I understand Apple's desire to keep new products as secret as possible until they are announced to the public, but sometimes that has a direct effect on the preparedness of third-pary developers.  A very good example of this was the release of the 64-bit capable Aperture.  While it was good for the user that you provided a "32-bit compatibility relaunch mode", it essentially left all of your third-party developers with a bit of egg on their face and scrambling to get the products back up to par.
>>
>> I would really prefer (and appreciate) not having to experience that again.
>>
>>
>> So that leads me to my first few questions regarding Aperture and Lion:
>>
>>        1) Is Aperture currently sandboxed? (My inference from my testing to date is that it is not).
>>
>>        2) When will it become a sandboxed app?
>>
>>        3) It is my understanding that sandboxed apps must have their plug-ins converted into XPC services in order to run on Lion.  Will Aperture be providing some kind of automatic "wrapper" for exiting third-party plug-ins?  or are we going to have to perform the conversion?
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